[TowerTalk] Resonant frequency, up or down?

Jim Lux jimlux at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 20 18:28:54 EDT 2015


On 4/20/15 2:53 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> Remind me (please)..as you raise a dipole up off the ground, does the
> resonant frequency go up or down?
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In general, putting a dipole in or near something that is not free space 
will lower the resonant frequency (and also, often, increase the loss as 
well).

You can look at it in several conceptual models:
1) the effective permittivity in which the dipole is operating is a sort 
of combination of air, wire insulation, and the soil.  The farther you 
are from the soil, the smaller the fraction. Air/Free space has a 
relative epsilon of 1, pretty much everything else is >1 (water is 82, 
etc.)

To a first order, (and the ghost of J.R. Wait will rise up and smite me 
because what I'm about to say is technically wrong), you can treat a 
wire laying on the ground as having an effective epsilon of (1+soil 
epsilon)/2.  (that is, half way between air and soil)




2) the propagation speed is slower in a medium with relative epsilon >1, 
so a "half wavelength" is physically shorter.  Or, another way, for a 
given physical length, the resonant frequency is lower.

3) another way to look at it is to imagine the antenna wire as being a 
bunch of inductors in series and capacitors to ground (like a 
transmission line).  Changing the "capacitance to ground" changes the Z 
(=sqrt(L/C)) and propagation velocity (=1/sqrt(LC)) of the transmission 
line.

More C makes the speed slower and the impedance lower.
More L (using a coil instead of a straight wire) makes the speed slower 
and the impedance higher.

Soil doesn't do much for L, but it sure affects C: not only is there the 
permittivity (epsilon) aspect, but there's also the "big capacitor 
plate) effect.



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> I had an all band dipole perfectly set a week ago and now have changed the
> height on a temporary mast which I have reconfigured and it seems like the
> frequencies are all off, but I will change the height of it yet again before
> I go out in the field.  Easier for me to trim or add length now before I
> leave and wish to do a little math and get it a bit closer now, rather than
> later.  I am already in the ballpark.

Now you're getting into "rule of thumb" territory... and I'm terrible on 
this, so I just wind up hauling the darn thing up and down a couple 
times to make a couple measurements, and assume it's linear for small 
scale changes.

That is, if you measure a 20m dipole (5 meter legs) at full height and 
it's, say, resonant at 13.9 MHz; then you bring it down and shorten each 
leg by 0.1 meters, and haul it back up, and now it's resonant at 13.95; 
you'd assume that every 10 cm is worth about 50khz, so to get it to 
14.150, you'd knock off 40 more cm.


(length examples illustrative.. in reality a 2% change in length would 
result in roughly a 2% change in frequency, or about 280 kHz. )


I have never been successful at adjusting resonance to a specific value 
near the ground and then having it scale nicely up high.



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