[TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?

[Gene Smar]

While I was with BellAtlantic Video (FiOS predecessor) in mid-90s, we did the balloon thing for our planned satellite headend facility's parabolic antenna. The thing is, the balloon never floated straight up in the air; the breeze always pushed it aside so the neighbors never got to see the balloon at full height. We didn't build the facility after all.


73 de
Gene Smar AD3F




On 10/28/15, n4zkf wrote:

Been in this business 17 years and that is a new one on me. You learn
something every day.

73 Dave n4zkf







On 10/28/15 7:51 AM, "David Robbins" k1ttt at verizon.net> wrote:

>flying a balloon at the height of a proposed tower or windmill so
>neighbors can see how much it will affect their scenic views is a common
>requirement in this area for commercial stuff.
>usually required for so many days some time before the public hearings.
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>Oct 28, 2015 06:19:03 AM, towertalk at n4zkf.com wrote:
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>I am in this business. This is what I do. Gene and Bud are correct.
>(although the balloon gets me?) Also don't forget the taxes are going up.
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>73 Dave n4zkf
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>On 10/27/15 7:12 PM, "Gene Smar" wrote:
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>>Donna:
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>> On the other side (the carrier's) of the coin, they'll probably want
>>24-hour access and a commercial power source as heavy as, or heavier
>>than, your home's, plus a BAG (.... Generator.) Your insurance agent
>>may want an increased premium for the commercial operation on your
>>property. 
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>> I've driven past cell towers on private property around here (DC
>>area) but they were on large farms away from population centers.
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>> Caveat Amateur.
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>>73/88 de
>>Gene Smar AD3F
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>W2RU - Bud Hippisley
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:42 PM
>>To: tower 
>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
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>>Donna ?
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>>Please let me expand on Jim??s very important comment.
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>>I spent six+ years looking into antenna zoning restrictions in my search
>>for a new QTH. In general ? and this may not be true in your locality
>>but it was / is true in by far the majority of municipalities I
>>investigated ? amateur radio towers may be preferentially treated only as
>>long as there is no commercial use co-located on the tower.
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>>Once there is a commercial application on your tower, it becomes subject
>>to what are usually far more restrictive paragraphs in the local zoning
>>ordinance. You may, for instance, be required to have public hearings
>>when you weren??t required to for a ham tower. You may have to fly a
>>brightly marked balloon, where previously you weren??t. And so on. And
>>it gets worse ? and worse ? and worse.
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>>In short, you most likely will lose any protections you might think you
>>have under PRB-1.
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>>Unless you live in a municipality that has no zoning at all ? and no
>>restrictions at all on cell towers ? I don??t even recommend ??proceed[ing]
>>with caution?? ? I recommend not proceeding at all!
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>>Bud, W2RU
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>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:41 47PM, Jim Brown
>>>wrote:
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>>> On Tue,10/27/2015 1:02 PM, ag6v at whidbey.com wrote:
>>>> I'm sure some of you have an opinion/experience with cell phone
>>>>antennas
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>>> No experience, but caution -- beware of zoning issues that apply to
>>>commercial installations as opposed to ham towers.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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