[TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?

[J. Hunt]

Years ago I was approached by a ISP to place a wireless node on my 118' tower - the answer was NO. 

The reasons were covered well by:  W2RU and K9YC.

Please keep your ham radio tower Private, no Commercial use at all.


Cheers,
James
ki5dq
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On Thu, 10/29/15, Gene Smar <ersmar at verizon.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
 To: towertalk at n4zkf.com, k1ttt at arrl.net, towertalk at contesting.com
 Date: Thursday, October 29, 2015, 9:20 AM
 
 While I was with Bell Atlantic Video (FiOS predecessor) in mid-90s, we did the balloon thing for our planned satellite headend facility's parabolic antenna. The thing is, the balloon never floated straight up in the air; the breeze always pushed it aside so the neighbors
 never got to see the balloon at full height. We didn't build the facility after all.
 
 
 73 de
 Gene Smar AD3F
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/15, n4zkf wrote:
 
 Been in this business 17 years and that is a new one on me.
 You learn something every day.
 
 73 Dave n4zkf
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 10/28/15 7:51 AM, "David Robbins" k1ttt at verizon.net> wrote:
 
 >flying a balloon at the height of a proposed tower or windmill so
 >neighbors can see how much it will affect their scenic views is a common requirement in this area for commercial stuff.
 >usually required for so many days some time before the public hearings.
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 >Oct 28, 2015 06:19:03 AM, towertalk at n4zkf.com wrote:
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 >I am in this business. This is what I do. Gene and Bud are correct.
 >(although the balloon gets me?) Also don't forget the taxes are going up.
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 >73 Dave n4zkf
 >e-mail: n4zkf at n4zkf.com
 >web: http://www.n4zkf.com
 >CC-Cluster node: 145.07 Mhz. or telnet://ccc.n4zkf.com:7373
 >N4ZKF/R 147.375 Mhz. Tone 103.5
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 >On 10/27/15 7:12 PM, "Gene Smar" wrote:
 >
 >>Donna:
 >>
 >> On the other side (the carrier's) of the coin, they'll probably want 24-hour access and a commercial power source as
 heavy as, or heavier than, your home's, plus a BAG (.... Generator.) Your insurance agent may want an increased premium for the commercial operation on your property. 
 >>
 >> I've driven past cell towers on private property around here (DC area) but they were on large farms away from population centers.
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 >> Caveat Amateur.
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 >>73/88 de
 >>Gene Smar AD3F
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 >>-----Original Message-----
 >>From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
 >>W2RU - Bud Hippisley
 >>Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:42 PM
 >>To: tower 
 >>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
 >>
 >>Donna ?
 >>
 >>Please let me expand on Jim??s very important comment.
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 >>I spent six+ years looking into antenna zoning restrictions in my search for a new QTH. In general ? and this may not be true
 in your locality  but it was / is true in by far the majority of  municipalities I investigated ? amateur radio towers may be preferentially treated only as long as there is no commercial use co-located on the  tower.
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 >>Once there is a commercial application on your tower, it becomes subject to what are usually far more restrictive paragraphs
 in the local zoning ordinance. You may, for instance, be required to  have public hearings when you weren??t required to for a ham tower. You may have to fly a brightly marked balloon, where previously you weren??t. And so on. And it gets worse ? and worse ? and worse.
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 >>In short, you most likely will lose any protections you might think you have under PRB-1.
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 >>Unless you live in a municipality that has no zoning at all ? and no restrictions at all on cell towers ? I don??t even
 recommend ??proceed[ing] with caution?? ? I recommend not proceeding at all!
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 >>Bud, W2RU
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 >>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:41 47PM, Jim Brown
 >>>wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> On Tue,10/27/2015 1:02 PM, ag6v at whidbey.com wrote:
 >>>> I'm sure some of you have an opinion/experience with cell phone antennas
 >>> 
 >>> No experience, but caution -- beware of zoning issues that apply to commercial installations as opposed to ham towers.
 >>> 
 >>> 73, Jim K9YC
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