[TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Vertical Antennas near salt-water

[Bill]

Hustler not Butternut...sorry for the confusion.
Bill W2CQ

On 2/3/2016 2:55 PM, Bill wrote:
> My HF2V and Butternut 6 BTV are both attached to metal posts at my sea 
> wall. Both posts go into the salt water. They work at 1:1 SWR with no 
> radials. I do have some in the water but always wonder why? Hi...
>
> They both perform very well and load on all bands.
> Bill W2CQ
>
>
>
> On 2/3/2016 2:30 PM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
>> I had a vertical for 160 on a small peninsula in salt water. I ran the
>> radials into salt water in 4 directions and pushed aluminum tubing 
>> pieces
>> into the bottom in the salt water with the end of the radials clamped to
>> them. Awesome antenna on transmit. Fair on receive. Just need enough 
>> radial
>> length to get to the salt water.
>>
>> Chuck W5PR
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Gary K9GS <garyk9gs at wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had an interesting discussion with a friend over the weekend and 
>>> wanted
>>> to get some input from the TowerTalk community.
>>>
>>> Imagine a 1/4 wavelength wire hanging down from a tree with the 
>>> bottom end
>>> attached to a post set into the salt water.  The antenna wire would 
>>> be 3 or
>>> 4 feet above the water.  What should be done with the 
>>> radial/counterpoise
>>> wires?  Should those wires go into the water?
>>>
>>> Or imagine a similar hanging wire that has the bottom end attached 
>>> to the
>>> top of a seawall.  Again, the bottom of the antenna would be 3-4 
>>> feet above
>>> the water.  Should the radials run on the ground parallel to the 
>>> seawall or
>>> run into the water?
>>>
>>> A third situation would be a vertical antenna mounted at the end of a
>>> pier.  Run the radials back toward shore along the pier or run all 
>>> of the
>>> radials into the water?
>>>
>>> Finally, if the radials are in the water does it make any difference if
>>> the wire is insulated or not?
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Gary K9GS
>>>
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