[TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Vertical Antennas near salt-water

[Mike Ryan]

There has been a ton of talk on this subject. I myself live on a salt water 
canal in Florida and have tried various vertical antennas over the salt 
water, aside it, next to it, etc.  There is so much MISINFORMATION and 
downright speculation based on wrong assumptions, guesswork, and the like. 
Someone did a great article on the subject who was in fact a contester. 
(Should that be spelled contestor, or contestee? ..you decide)  At any rate, 
if you read article which can be opened from the link I have attached, play 
close attention to the paragraph that reads
" ... often incorrect assumptions about verticals: ".  This is enlightening 
but the information is based on success or failure in the field and not 
supposition which in my OPINION counts for something!  -Mike

Subject: verticals

http://www.k2kw.com/verticals/learning.html




-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:55 PM
To: Towertalk Mailing List
Cc: Chuck Dietz
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Vertical Antennas near salt-water

My HF2V and Butternut 6 BTV are both attached to metal posts at my sea
wall. Both posts go into the salt water. They work at 1:1 SWR with no
radials. I do have some in the water but always wonder why? Hi...

They both perform very well and load on all bands.
Bill W2CQ



On 2/3/2016 2:30 PM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
> I had a vertical for 160 on a small peninsula in salt water. I ran the
> radials into salt water in 4 directions and pushed aluminum tubing pieces
> into the bottom in the salt water with the end of the radials clamped to
> them. Awesome antenna on transmit. Fair on receive. Just need enough 
> radial
> length to get to the salt water.
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Gary K9GS <garyk9gs at wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I had an interesting discussion with a friend over the weekend and wanted
>> to get some input from the TowerTalk community.
>>
>> Imagine a 1/4 wavelength wire hanging down from a tree with the bottom 
>> end
>> attached to a post set into the salt water.  The antenna wire would be 3 
>> or
>> 4 feet above the water.  What should be done with the radial/counterpoise
>> wires?  Should those wires go into the water?
>>
>> Or imagine a similar hanging wire that has the bottom end attached to the
>> top of a seawall.  Again, the bottom of the antenna would be 3-4 feet 
>> above
>> the water.  Should the radials run on the ground parallel to the seawall 
>> or
>> run into the water?
>>
>> A third situation would be a vertical antenna mounted at the end of a
>> pier.  Run the radials back toward shore along the pier or run all of the
>> radials into the water?
>>
>> Finally, if the radials are in the water does it make any difference if
>> the wire is insulated or not?
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>>
>> Gary K9GS
>>
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