[TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Cadwelding to Rohn 45G and 55G

[Patrick Greenlee]

Before an ICD put a hitch in my welding I used to weld stainless steel 
tabs onto pipes and other things so I could use stainless steel bolts to 
attach copper wires, terminals, etc. avoiding the big issue of 
dissimilar metal corrosion when putting stuff in contact with galvanized 
metals.  If you try this do remember to avoid fumes from any welding but 
especially if galvanized steel is welded.

Patrick        NJ5G

On 2/12/2016 3:14 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
> Ground (pipe/rod) clamps come in an bronze or brass alloy.  For 
> clamping on galvanized steel,  I think they are brass (Zn + Cu) but 
> either may be ok?
>
> I ran a 2 radials from each leg, that offers redundancy, lower 
> inductance, more capacitive ground coupling, and shortest paths. I 
> would not recommend a ground ring if you want to measure your ground 
> rod resistances.  Any loops prevent that assuming the leads from it to 
> the rods are buried cadwelds.  I've also a convert to using bare #2 
> stranded 3 rods per radial connection spaced 15' or more apart. One at 
> 5' from tower then 20 and 35' out. 9 rods or more if more radials.  
> Best if buried below the frost line as frozen water is a particulary 
> poor conductor..  The #2 also has enough surface area to act as a 
> horizontal grounding element.  I started with #6 for the first set of 
> rods, then used some #2 and after some measurements became convinced 
> #2 was worth it.
>
> Grant KZ1W
>
> On 2/12/2016 11:58 AM, Larry Loen wrote:
>> That may be a nice alternative, but what advantage does it offer over
>> simply connecting a regular ground clamp?
>>
>> It seems like a very nice idea, but I need to understand what I gain 
>> versus
>> just clamping and having done with it.  If I did the "classic" thing and
>> cadwelded to the tower legs, I would not be depending on bolts.
>>
>> On the other hand, I'm already (arguably) depending on six sets of bolts
>> "above" me to connect the top sections to the bottom tower section 
>> anyhow.
>> You could argue:  What's one more set of bolts?
>>
>> Anyone know what I would be trading-off here?
>>
>>
>> WO7R
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM, <TexasRF at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry, can you connect some tinned copper lugs to the lower set of 
>>> three
>>> (or six) leg bolts using the existing bolts? For added security, you 
>>> could
>>> add six locking nuts. The ground wires would then connect to the 
>>> lugs of
>>> course.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Gerald K5GW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 2/12/2016 1:39:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> lwloen at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> I am in the process of putting in two new towers on my property 
>>> (yes, I am
>>> blessed).
>>>
>>> I'm a little nervous about Cadwelding to the legs.  I suppose you'll 
>>> all
>>> tell me it has been done dozens of times, but I have visions of 
>>> blowing a
>>> hole through one of the legs near the bottom of my tower.
>>>
>>> The alternative, I suppose, is to get a set of quality ground 
>>> clamps, clamp
>>> it maybe three times (I assume this would help the impedance a bit) 
>>> and the
>>> inspect it over time.
>>>
>>> I also plan to have an extensive "ground ring" around the tower.  On my
>>> current crankup, I cadwelded to all three "legs" except it was easy to
>>> Cadweld to a nice thick base and not to the tower, proper. Effectively
>>> required, in fact.  So, I Cadwelded to stuff that wasn't a big deal,
>>> structurally.  Here it would be.
>>>
>>> 1.  Do I Cadweld anyway?  How to be sure the tower leg isn't weakened?
>>>
>>> 2.  Do I do it to a single leg or all three?  I could "feed" my 
>>> ground ring
>>> from a single leg, I suppose.
>>>
>>> This is all in excess of what Rohn shows, which is a single, clamped 
>>> line
>>> from the tower, but I've always taken it for granted the smart thing 
>>> to do
>>> is have a more extensive network.  I plan on three rods, connected as a
>>> ring, and then copper "lines" out from each of them to another rod, 
>>> a total
>>> of six in all.  That's all easy and been done (by me) before. 
>>> Question is,
>>> what's the best way to connect to the tower itself?  I have the "buried
>>> tower section" type of base.  We will be pouring concrete late next 
>>> week.
>>> So, I have about a month to plan and execute my ground system.
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry WO7R
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