[TowerTalk] Barker & Williamson Model AC - 1.8 - 30

David Gilbert xdavid at cis-broadband.com
Tue Jan 5 17:51:51 EST 2016


Good point.  I think you're correct for most applications, although I've 
never been convinced that effects like diffraction are fully symmetrical 
(I happen to believe in one-way skip for really low angle signals over 
irregular terrain) .   And I agree that for HF you'd have to be out 
quite a distance, but if you use a transmitter on the drone I don't see 
that being a problem.  In fact, the further away from the test antenna 
the more viable GPS positioning becomes.

I've also thought that the transmitted signal could be low level 
broadband noise, so if the drone was transmitting it the receiver on the 
ground could be a broadband SDR that pretty much characterized 
everything at once.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 1/5/2016 1:00 PM, David Robbins wrote:
> easier to put a small transmitter board with short antenna on the drone and just match the gps track with received signals sampled on the ground.
> the biggest problem is deciding how far out from the antenna makes a valid far field pattern in real conditions... it may not be too bad for vhf, but
> for most hf stuff you would need a pretty big pattern to get valid results.
>
>
> Jan 5, 2016 01:47:31 PM, xdavid at cis-broadband.com wrote:
>
>
>
> I've suggested before that it should be possible to attach something
> like a Softrock to a drone along with a small 3-axis sampling antenna.
> The output could either be stored in memory or fed real time back to the
> ground via some sort of link. The drone could be programmed via GPS (or
> simply positioned via a tether) to run concentric circles around any
> existing antenna in place at it's normal location to plot the radiation
> pattern. The result would take into account not only the antenna itself
> but also the impact of its surroundings (terrain, buildings, other
> antennas).
>
> I don't think it would take too much engineering or cost to put
> something like this together, but I suspect that not many people would
> be willing to pay to cover the hassle of doing so. Maybe cell tower
> owners ...
>
> I still think it's an interesting idea, though.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
>
>
> On 1/5/2016 8:05 AM, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> ## whats needed is a ham version of consumer reports.
>>>
>>> Jim VE7RF
>>>
>> Steve and Ward's Tribander comparison book is the closest thing we have. Too bad it's so much work to set up a fair antenna test range; I would love to see dozens of antennas compared. Of course, it could put some people out of business....
>>
>> Chris
>> KF7P
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