[TowerTalk] Heat from nearby lightning strikes...

Mon May 30 23:56:09 EDT 2016

Many years ago, I worked for a company that sold some equipment to a 
company located in Japan.  This was when we in the US were still the 
dominate TV set producers. Sometime later a few of our people visited 
that company. There was a row of these machines, complete with useless 
holes drilled in massive plates of Aluminum. They were exact copies of 
the machine we sold, complete with faults which I'm sure as they 
modernized, they eliminated those machines and built their own.

There are those who purchase on price alone, there are those who 
unknowingly purchase these parts. My point is that the add listed would 
likely cost them customers who might purchase in quantity as they would 
question things like proper translations.  Of course there are 
companies, like individuals that buy and sell based on price. Companies 
who sell equipment presented as being more powerful than the internal 
components can deliver.

73

Roger (K8RI)

On 5/30/2016 Monday 9:34 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
> They should, but there is no law human or natural that says they must. And technical merits have no axiomatic relationship to language. It reflects badly on the company, but I bet that's offset significantly by price.  As an aside, Taiwan would seem to have poorer structural protection of IP than China, but in China corruption is rampant and enforcement is an afterthought (IMO). I don't know which is worse - reasonable law poorly enforced or poor law adequately enforced.
>
> If you want to do business in Asia, this is what you get with the exception of multinationals that have the resources. Caveat emptor.
>
> Sidebar - I lost a hub cap for a BMW. While ordering a bunch of parts online both for that car and a pickup, I bought a set of 4 replacements off Amazon for $7 that included shipping.  Seemed pretty cheap even for aftermarket BMW parts. Only later when I was wondering why they needed 2 weeks to arrive did I realize they were coming from China. When they arrived, I was surprised by the quality. The plastic part of the insert even had mold markings identical to Lexus and BMW OEM.  I'm sure they are knockoffs, but.....
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI) on TT
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:03 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Heat from nearby lightning strikes...
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> Doesn't matter where they are located.
>
> If a company has the technical expertise, they should have the capability for someone to proof read what ever come out of advertising and AFAIK, they do.  Now if they outsource their advertising they are still responsible for the content whether software or human translators as the result reflects directly on the quality of their products.
>
> 73
>
> Roger  (K8RI)
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 Monday 6:27 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
>> Since the company is based in Taiwan, I'll bet dollars for donuts that no one "wrote" that ad; rather, it was run through Google translate and that's what comes out when you translate technical Mandarin to English with software that speaks neither.
>>
>> Attributing technical incompetence to such foreign companies is just so Imperialist running dog.
>>
>> Reminds me of the Dave Barry column "Read This First". A sample: INSTRUCTIONS: For results that can be the finest, it is our advising that: Never to hold these buttons two times!! Except the battery. Next, taking the (something) earth section may cause a large occurrence! However. If this is not a trouble, such rotation is a very maintenance action, as a kindly (something) viewpoint from Drawing B.
>>
>> Al
>> AB2ZY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Roger (K8RI) on TT
>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 5:48 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Heat from nearby lightning strikes...
>>
>> Gas discharge units "do work", but unfortunately their advertising department, or whoever wrote the add, has no understanding of how they work.
>> That is enough to turn off knowledgeable "potential" customers.
>> IOW, that add probably cost them more customers than it gained.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/2016 Monday 9:03 AM, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
>>> All towers are lightning magnets so we are or should be interested in
>>> protection but... Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem
>>> (Problem = old fashioned term for issue) with the advertising copy below?
>>>
>>> Arc Gas Discharge
>>> *Lightning Protection*
>>>
>>> OPEK MODEL: LP-350A
>>>
>>> Warmer temperatures bring an increased thunderstorm activity. So, now
>>> is the time to protect your radios. A good way to do this is with
>>> lightning protectors that utilize 'arc-gas' discharge tubes. Heat
>>> from nearby lightning strikes rapidly expand the gas inside the tubes
>>> opening the antenna feedline much quicker that old fashion surge
>>> protectors.
>>>
>>>
>>> What a revelation, all these years I thought the gas tubes ionized
>>> above a certain potential offering lightning induced currents a low
>>> impedance path to ground thus protecting equipment further down the
>>> coax. But now we know that heat from nearby lightning strikes
>>> expanding the gas to create an "open" is the agent of protection not
>>> ionized gas offering a low impedance path to ground.  (all those
>>> years studying physics... wasted.) Associative memory... I recall a
>>> flight attendant on a red eye from Dulles to San Diego instructing
>>> the sparsely occupied cabin that in the event of sudden loss of cabin
>>> pressure masks would deploy from the ceiling and that we should grasp
>>> the mask firmly, give a tug to start the flow of oxygen, place the
>>> mask over our navel and continue to breathe normally. Maybe later she
>>> got a job writing advertising copy.
>>>
>>> Patrick        NJ5G
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73

Roger (K8RI)

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