[TowerTalk] Strange behavior

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at comcast.net
Sun Jan 22 12:41:47 EST 2017


This happens all the timeon 10, and I would presume on 15 as well. 
Particularly in low sunspot years, I've heard and worked Europeans on 10 
at 90-95 degrees just before a real band opening.  K3ZO has made quite a 
study of this, so maybe Fred can elaborate.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/22/2017 12:15 PM, StellarCAT wrote:
> 15? Skewed?
>
> That would be quite a rarity. Most of the time signals on all bands 
> are direct with skew propagation being more common on the lower bands 
> and usually only at transition points - i.e. sunrise/sunset. Note to 
> those ready to pounce - I'm not saying it doesn't happen - it is just 
> much more infrequent and one should pretty well know most of the time 
> that EU is roughly at 45 deg.
>
> Magnetic deviation can account for up to about 12 deg in some places 
> in the US (here in the east 6 if I remember right, in AZ it was 11)...
>
> but by 45 deg?! That is REALLY strange...
>
> Gary
> K9RX
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Solomon
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:23 AM
> To: towertalk
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Strange behavior
>
> How about using the Compass App
> on your SmartPhone ?
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:59 AM, <john at kk9a.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to avoid the true north thread however I would verify 
>> that they
>> are indeed pointing 45 degrees when you beam Europe. A compass can be
>> inaccurate around a lot of metal or if not level and it is measuring
>> magnetic north. If you use Google earth you can pick an object 45 
>> degrees
>> from your tower and see if you beam is pointing that direction. Since 
>> you
>> multiple towers and beams it is possible that something is skewing the
>> pattern or that you have skewed propagation under these poor 
>> conditions but
>> I would visually look at the direction one more time using a different
>> direction method.
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>> To:     <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Subject:        [TowerTalk] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Strange behavior
>> From:   "Carol Richards" <n2mm at comcast.net>
>> Date:   Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:35:57 -0500
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> In late summer, I had some minor work done on my towers and antennas. I
>> used
>> a compass so that the beams were lined up correctly with N at 0 
>> degrees and
>> NE at 45 degrees,  EU direction. All monoband yagis have not loosened 
>> up,
>> but that EU now peaks at due East on all three yagis, separate 
>> towers, The
>> other directions behave properly; N to JA, W to the Pacific etc. Can 
>> anyone
>> explain why the change? There is about 15 db difference in signals 
>> from EU
>> at 90 degrees and EU at 45 degrees?
>>
>> I understand that EU on 15m would be skewed at this point in the 
>> cycle, but
>> 40m and 20m?
>>
>>
>>
>> Carol
>>
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