[TowerTalk] Laying out radials around a stone fence

[Stan Stockton]

With that info I might be inclined to use the same amount of wire and put down 5 times as many 20 foot radials in that 75 degree span.

Obviously there would be some amount of bend which would have no effect.

Stan, K5GO

> On May 13, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> An experienced local MW broadcast engineer and low band ham, VE6LO now SK,
> did some experiments with radials on a 160m vertical he had with a yard
> that also had obstacles.  Using a RF current meter (similar to the MFJ 854
> I expect) he came to the conclusion that if a radial had to be bent to go
> around an obstacle, you might as well not bother - as he found very little
> RF continued past the bend.
> 
> 73 Don
> VE6JY
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> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 1:22 AM Joe Giacobello, K2XX via TowerTalk <
> towertalk at contesting.com> wrote:
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>> Yea! Verily!
>> 
>>> Stan Stockton <mailto:wa5rtg at gmail.com>
>>> Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:32 PM
>>> I would stake them down at base of wall, go up and over the wall,
>>> stake them down on other side and continue out.
>>> 
>>> Stan, K5GO
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>>> Kevin Shea via TowerTalk <mailto:towertalk at contesting.com>
>>> Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:57 PM
>>> Now that the glacier has receded from Wisconsin, I want to put in
>>> radials around my 80' AN Wireless tower (free standing no guy wires).
>>> About 20' out on an arc of about 75 degrees I have an old stone wall.
>>> It's not high but has huge glacial boulders which really can't be
>>> moved. My radials will be about 100' long (some a bit longer some a
>>> bit shorter). They will be buried using a trencher designed to bury
>>> invisible dog fence or lawn sprinkler pipes. I will likely go down ~3"
>>> using 15 gauge solid enamel copper wire (got it an auction of a
>>> transformer mfgr going out of business).
>>> 
>>> My question is: should I run the 20' radials out and end them at the
>>> wall, and the radials at the end edges of the wall (either side of the
>>> 75 degree arc) connect those to a wire (forming a chord - parallel to
>>> the far side of the stone wall) and then connect radials to this cord
>>> and continue those radials out another 80-100'?
>>> 
>>> Hard to explain without a drawing. I would also mention that the
>>> ground falls away from the tower in this direction, probable down 25'
>>> from the base of the tower. This is into a woods and the soil is very
>>> rich and should be a good conductor.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Kevin N9JKP
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