[TowerTalk] time to modernize the reflector

Don Havlicek n8de at thepoint.net
Sun Aug 25 20:49:39 EDT 2019


I totally agree with you, Joe.
If it's not broken, don't fix it!
Don
N8DE

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On Aug 25, 2019 8:23 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>
> On 2019-08-25 7:51 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> > There are no real negatives other than a temporary upsetting of
> > things.
> You need to realize that there are *17* lists hosted at Contesting.com
> run on the MailMan software. Tower talk is not the *only* consideration
> here.
>
> In addition to the MailMan lists at Contesting.com, there are over 500
> (public) amateur oriented lists using MailMan software on QTH.net.
>
> Reflexively abandoning MailMan for TowerTalk after 22 years would be
> absurd and offer nothing of value other than a useless (IMO) web
> interface.
>
> 73,
>
>     ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 2019-08-25 7:51 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> > As a Groups.io list owner SteppIR  and others.  There can be as much 
> > moderation as necessary and what is nice when a topic is closed for 
> > discussion it can actually be close and BS post that have nothing to do 
> > with the list can be easily removed, making it far easier to search for 
> > relevant information.
> > 
> > I am unsure if there is a way to bring over the archives.  K5TR is very 
> > competent and if he agrees I am sure that he can help with the process.
> > 
> > Groups.io groups also allow people to view using only the web and many 
> > people really like that option.
> > 
> > There are no real negatives other than a temporary upsetting of things.
> > 
> > Steve, if you need or want additional help I am happy to help.
> > 
> > W0MU
> > 
> > On 8/25/2019 11:12 AM, k7lxc--- via TowerTalk wrote:
> >>>    You're asking to transform an email list into a forum.  This 
> >>> dramaticallychanges the content and discourse, effecting the S/N ratio.
> >>>    Email is great as it allows well thought out and reasoned messages 
> >>> on asubject.  I can reply when I want and it's direct.  A forum is 
> >>> subject tocensorship and pettiness which is all to common in amateur 
> >>> radio today. Mywords can be changed and edited by anyone with 
> >>> database access.
> >>      Excuse my ignorance but I don't see the distinction between the 
> >> two. The Mailman lists like this one all have administrators that can 
> >> moderate the list which means that some stuff doesn't get posted 
> >> (censored) based on their particular agenda. The contesting reflector 
> >> is moderated while TT is not.
> >>
> >>      It sounds like there are some minor (?) problems with groups.io 
> >> but IMO the benefits far outweigh the problems.
> >>
> >> Cheers,Steve    K7LXCTT ADMIN
> >> PS - Someone mentioned no ads on groups.io. While there aren't any 
> >> commercial "ads" on TT, I don't discourage anyone from posting about 
> >> some offer that may be of interest to TT'ers. After all, over half of 
> >> what's discussed has to do with buying something.
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