[TowerTalk] 4 square question

[Les Kalmus]

I believe it means your NE/SW elements should align to EU if that's 
where you want to point. In other words, point the corners towards where 
you want your signal. That's how I had mine set up and it worked per the 
book.

Les W2LK


On 10/18/2020 3:24 PM, kq2m at kq2m.com wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> I saw that too but it doesn’t answer my questions. "Radiation across 
> the diagonals" is a vague and unhelpful statement.  It doesn’t address 
> in what directions the elements should placed nor which elements are 
> effectively being phased and radiating to produce the NE direction 
> radiation.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Alan Swinger
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:55 PM
> To: kq2m at kq2m.com ; towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 4 square question
>
> Per my DX Eng Guide used to construct my 40M 4 Sq and in daily use, 
> radiation is on the diagonals . .. not broadside. - Alan K9MBQ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kq2m at kq2m.com
>> Sent: Oct 18, 2020 2:49 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] 4 square question
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will be rebuilding several 4-squares this season as well as 
>> restringing them in different trees due to Tornado damage (loss or 
>> destruction of many trees at my qth) during Tropical Storm Isaias on 
>> August 4th.  I have a few questions for which I would appreciate your 
>> guidance....
>>
>> 1) If I recall correctly, for purposes of focusing on Europe, ideally 
>> I would want to put the 4 elements in a box formation in the NE, SE, 
>> SW and NW directions relative to the middle of the array.  Is that 
>> correct?
>>
>> 2) In the 4-square when I select the controller direction NE, I am 
>> effectively radiating broadside NE from the NW and SE elements.  Is 
>> that correct?
>>
>> 3) In the past I had the bottom of the 4-square elements soldered to 
>> center conductor of the pin of an SO239 with the radials attached to 
>> each of the SO239 screw holes, with the coax connector for the 
>> phasing line screwed onto the SO239.   (The choke was located below 
>> the PL259 on the phasing line) This worked well but I am trying to 
>> improve the design.
>>
>> If I were to terminate the bottom of the 4-square element by twisting 
>> it through and around one hole of the porcelain insulator and 
>> soldering it there, would I still be able to then solder a small wire 
>> from that connection to the center conductor pin of a SO239 with the 
>> radials attached to the SO239 screw holes as before?  My idea being 
>> that I can do that then I can use a piece of twine through the 
>> remaining porcelain insulator hole taped to the coax to provide 
>> additional physical support for the coax and radials – which will be 
>> helpful during ice storms.
>>
>> I would appreciate any thoughts and suggestions and possible 
>> improvements on this design.
>>
>> Tnx  & 73
>>
>> Bob, KQ2M
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