[TowerTalk] 4 square question

[Jeff Blaine]

Step by step:

Draw a square on a page of paper.

Draw a line from one corner on one side, to the opposite corner on the 
other side.  You should end up with what looks like two mirrored 
triangles.  That line you just drew - that is the diagonal mentioned 
earlier.

Extend that diagonal out a bit and put an arrow on the end of it.  That 
will be one of the directions available to you in a 4SQ.

The harder part is to align the corners of your elements on your 
properly so that this diagonal points to the center of EU, if you are 
thinking EU DX or EU contesting.

73/jeff/ac0c
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On 10/18/20 2:55 PM, Les Kalmus wrote:
> I believe it means your NE/SW elements should align to EU if that's 
> where you want to point. In other words, point the corners towards 
> where you want your signal. That's how I had mine set up and it worked 
> per the book.
>
> Les W2LK
>
>
> On 10/18/2020 3:24 PM, kq2m at kq2m.com wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> I saw that too but it doesn’t answer my questions. "Radiation across 
>> the diagonals" is a vague and unhelpful statement.  It doesn’t 
>> address in what directions the elements should placed nor which 
>> elements are effectively being phased and radiating to produce the NE 
>> direction radiation.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob KQ2M
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Alan Swinger
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:55 PM
>> To: kq2m at kq2m.com ; towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 4 square question
>>
>> Per my DX Eng Guide used to construct my 40M 4 Sq and in daily use, 
>> radiation is on the diagonals . .. not broadside. - Alan K9MBQ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kq2m at kq2m.com
>>> Sent: Oct 18, 2020 2:49 PM
>>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [TowerTalk] 4 square question
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I will be rebuilding several 4-squares this season as well as 
>>> restringing them in different trees due to Tornado damage (loss or 
>>> destruction of many trees at my qth) during Tropical Storm Isaias on 
>>> August 4th.  I have a few questions for which I would appreciate 
>>> your guidance....
>>>
>>> 1) If I recall correctly, for purposes of focusing on Europe, 
>>> ideally I would want to put the 4 elements in a box formation in the 
>>> NE, SE, SW and NW directions relative to the middle of the array.  
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> 2) In the 4-square when I select the controller direction NE, I am 
>>> effectively radiating broadside NE from the NW and SE elements.  Is 
>>> that correct?
>>>
>>> 3) In the past I had the bottom of the 4-square elements soldered to 
>>> center conductor of the pin of an SO239 with the radials attached to 
>>> each of the SO239 screw holes, with the coax connector for the 
>>> phasing line screwed onto the SO239. (The choke was located below 
>>> the PL259 on the phasing line) This worked well but I am trying to 
>>> improve the design.
>>>
>>> If I were to terminate the bottom of the 4-square element by 
>>> twisting it through and around one hole of the porcelain insulator 
>>> and soldering it there, would I still be able to then solder a small 
>>> wire from that connection to the center conductor pin of a SO239 
>>> with the radials attached to the SO239 screw holes as before?  My 
>>> idea being that I can do that then I can use a piece of twine 
>>> through the remaining porcelain insulator hole taped to the coax to 
>>> provide additional physical support for the coax and radials – which 
>>> will be helpful during ice storms.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any thoughts and suggestions and possible 
>>> improvements on this design.
>>>
>>> Tnx  & 73
>>>
>>> Bob, KQ2M
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