[TowerTalk] Norfolk, Mass Tower experience?

Bud Kozloff w1nsk at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 8 21:25:09 EST 2021


Thinking of 45g, 80ft , 45 g. 10 ft mast on top for 90’ total. How much trouble Am I to expect? Cant believe “Amateur Antenna Supports excluded from restriction”. Too good to be true! 

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>   1. Harbour Industries RG-400 (Jamie WW3S)
>   2. Re: Harbour Industries RG-400 (Jim Brown)
>   3. Re: Harbour Industries RG-400 (john at kk9a.com)
>   4. Re: Harbour Industries RG-400 (Wayne Kline)
>   5. EZNEC/AutoEZ Shunt Coil Modelling for Yagis (David Needham)
>   6. Re: Harbour Industries RG-400 (weaverwf at usermail.com)
>   7. Looking for tower advice (Kelley)
>   8. Tower help in SE Wis. (Bruce Ford)
>   9. Re: Looking for tower advice (Gary)
>  10. Re: Looking for tower advice (Ron Gorski)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 18:36:23 +0000
> From: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s at zoominternet.net>
> To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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> Anyone have experience with this? Its on Amazon but half the price of 
> other manufacturers.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 10:56:53 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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>> On 3/8/2021 10:36 AM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>> Anyone have experience with this? Its on Amazon but half the price of 
>> other manufacturers.
> 
> Harbour Industries is based on the VT/QC border, and has been the 
> source, through an eBay vendor, of the RG400 for the chokes I've wound 
> and measured. My caution is to make sure you're dealing with a reputable 
> vendor.
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> 73, Jim K9YC
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 14:33:20 -0600
> From: john at kk9a.com
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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> I bought a lot of Harbour RG400 on eBay for a very reasonable price. I  
> have no way to test it. It has double shielding and I have had no  
> issues with the jumpers that I made.
> 
> John KK9A
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> Jamie WW3S
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> Anyone have experience with this? Its on Amazon but half the price of
> other manufacturers.
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 21:00:59 +0000
> From: Wayne Kline <w3ea at hotmail.com>
> To: "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com>, "towertalk at contesting.com"
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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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> I also finished my inner station jumpers with Harbour  RG400   using crimp shield and solder  Center conductor   PL250 and BNC
> 
> I have has No problems
> 
> Wayne ,W3EA
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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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> I bought a lot of Harbour RG400 on eBay for a very reasonable price. I
> have no way to test it. It has double shielding and I have had no
> issues with the jumpers that I made.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> Jamie WW3S
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> Anyone have experience with this? Its on Amazon but half the price of
> other manufacturers.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 16:00:52 -0500
> From: David Needham <aa4vt.dave at gmail.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] EZNEC/AutoEZ Shunt Coil Modelling for Yagis
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> I have heard we have several modelling experts out there. I have purchased
> both EZNEC+ and AutoEZ and adapted a 20-15-10m Triband design for separate
> feedlines. I am matching the impedance with shunt coils across the driven
> elements. I built the coils using a coil calculator then tweaked them to
> the correct value with my Rig Expert analyzer. I didn't get anywhere near
> the expected result of the model with the real antenna.
> 
> I modeled the shunt coils as R+jX loads connected in parallel to the center
> of each driven element, but am guessing that wasn't the right way to go? Is
> anyone able to point me in the right direction? I am trying to get this
> Yagi ready to go for the CQWW WPX contest at the end of this month.
> 
> If you reply to me off list,I will send the AutoEZ/NEC file I built for the
> model.
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> Thank you!
> David Needham, AA4VT (formerly K4AJA and K8AJA)
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 16:28:16 -0500
> From: "weaverwf at usermail.com" <weaverwf at usermail.com>
> To: TowerTalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
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> Same here. Crimp shield and solder tip for in-shack jumpers. Tested out fine on impedance and Vf using a Rigexpert AA-55. Routinely run 1200W or so.
> 
> 73,
> Bill WE5P
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>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 16:02, Wayne Kline <w3ea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?I also finished my inner station jumpers with Harbour  RG400   using crimp shield and solder  Center conductor   PL250 and BNC
>> 
>> I have has No problems
>> 
>> Wayne ,W3EA
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>> From: john at kk9a.com<mailto:john at kk9a.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 3:33 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com<mailto:towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Harbour Industries RG-400
>> 
>> I bought a lot of Harbour RG400 on eBay for a very reasonable price. I
>> have no way to test it. It has double shielding and I have had no
>> issues with the jumpers that I made.
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> Jamie WW3S
>> 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Its on Amazon but half the price of
>> other manufacturers.
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:33:33 -0600
> From: Kelley <kelley at analogman.tech>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
> Message-ID: <1d800cb7-691b-c51e-a122-e4636aca521c at analogman.tech>
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> I recently moved to an new QTH. My yard is much smaller than my previous 
> yard (2.5 acres versus about .3 acres). I've currently got an all-band 
> dipole up but I've been thinking about a small tower. I've had towers at 
> previous QTH's, but I'm looking for something smaller and easier to work 
> with.
> 
> The city I live in restricts amateur towers to a maximum of 40 feet 
> (somewhere around 30 feet would be good). Ideally, I'm looking for a 
> setup that lets me work on antennas from the ground. I'm looking at 
> installing a small tri-band beam (perhaps something like a Cushcraft 
> A3S), rotor, a vhf/uhf vertical, and an inverted V wire antenna. It 
> would have to be self-supporting (there's no room for guy wires). 
> Something used is probably more inline with my budget.
> 
> Any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations, dos, don'ts...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kelley w0rk
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:52:35 -0600
> From: Bruce Ford <ks9u at aol.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower help in SE Wis.
> Message-ID: <25141C03-7B0B-4C5F-A9E1-B724694B9604 at aol.com>
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> Older age and some of past  choices in life are now limiting my ability to climb as much as I used to. I need to repair and reattach a feed line to my 2m vertical on my 160 vertical and also find a service to work on my rotating tower. I can still service the 50footer near the house but I think the other would be a problem. I am in the Kenosha,Wi area. Any leads would be appreciated . Bruce K9RO 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:40:38 +0000
> From: Gary <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>
> To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
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> Kelley,
> 
>    I have no experience with but, have always been intrigued by Universal Towers aluminum tower. They seem like a practical solution for the small lot little pistol station. The price seem reasonable too.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.universaltowers.com%2Ftowers&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb917d293cb134fac456b08d8e28e150a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637508447158986549%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BnYhDGg6QFYoidLRI3LRjpkPmq5R2RvItHfZM%2FSPGSU%3D&reserved=0
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> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
> 
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> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kelley
> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 3:34 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
> 
> I recently moved to an new QTH. My yard is much smaller than my previous yard (2.5 acres versus about .3 acres). I've currently got an all-band dipole up but I've been thinking about a small tower. I've had towers at previous QTH's, but I'm looking for something smaller and easier to work with.
> 
> The city I live in restricts amateur towers to a maximum of 40 feet (somewhere around 30 feet would be good). Ideally, I'm looking for a setup that lets me work on antennas from the ground. I'm looking at installing a small tri-band beam (perhaps something like a Cushcraft A3S), rotor, a vhf/uhf vertical, and an inverted V wire antenna. It would have to be self-supporting (there's no room for guy wires). 
> Something used is probably more inline with my budget.
> 
> Any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations, dos, don'ts...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kelley w0rk
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 23:58:05 -0000
> From: "Ron Gorski" <ron-n9au at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'Gary'" <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>,    <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
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> Be advised that I had a 72ft Heights aluminum tower that was self supporting
> till it snapped 4ft from ground level. That was decades ago. The moral to my
> story is NO MORE ALUMINUM TOWERS.
> Ron N9AU
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 10:41 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
> 
> Kelley,
> 
>    I have no experience with but, have always been intrigued by
> Universal Towers aluminum tower. They seem like a practical solution for the
> small lot little pistol station. The price seem reasonable too.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.universaltowers.com%2Ftowers&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb917d293cb134fac456b08d8e28e150a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637508447158986549%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BnYhDGg6QFYoidLRI3LRjpkPmq5R2RvItHfZM%2FSPGSU%3D&reserved=0
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> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kelley
> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 3:34 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Looking for tower advice
> 
> I recently moved to an new QTH. My yard is much smaller than my previous
> yard (2.5 acres versus about .3 acres). I've currently got an all-band
> dipole up but I've been thinking about a small tower. I've had towers at
> previous QTH's, but I'm looking for something smaller and easier to work
> with.
> 
> The city I live in restricts amateur towers to a maximum of 40 feet
> (somewhere around 30 feet would be good). Ideally, I'm looking for a setup
> that lets me work on antennas from the ground. I'm looking at installing a
> small tri-band beam (perhaps something like a Cushcraft A3S), rotor, a
> vhf/uhf vertical, and an inverted V wire antenna. It would have to be
> self-supporting (there's no room for guy wires). 
> Something used is probably more inline with my budget.
> 
> Any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations, dos, don'ts...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kelley w0rk
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
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