[TowerTalk] ...and another coax adapter question

Richard (Rick) Karlquist richard at karlquist.com
Sat Nov 25 20:24:43 EST 2023


You misunderstand what the definition of "insertion loss" (IL) is, as
used by RF component vendors.  IL = incident power (input) - transferred 
power (output).  The device under test (DUT) has both "mismatch loss",
where some of the incident power is reflected back to the source and
therefore is not transferred to the output; and dissipative loss,
where power is lost by being absorbed by heating the DUT.  So called
mismatch loss does not result in heating of the DUT.  Your
calculations are not valid.  Hope this makes sense.

73
Rick N6RK

On 11/25/2023 10:51 AM, Scott Townley wrote:
> If that's the case, then wouldn't an insertion loss test reveal such an 
> issue?
> 
> For example, I was deconstructing the power handling of a Charter 
> Engineering B5-series coaxial relay (N-female connectors).  If I map 
> "max insertion loss at x GHz" to the average power rating on their 
> published chart, at every point the dissipated power comes out to 11 
> watts.  That tells me that "good" N-connectors can dissipate 5 watts, 
> and for that mechanical form factor I should be able to derive a power 
> limit based on measured insertion loss.
> 
> Or are the physics of power handling in "not-so-good" connectors 
> different from what would be revealed by an insertion loss measurement? 
> Assuming of course that we are not in the realm of high voltage 
> breakdown of the dielectric (or maybe that's exactly the difference?).
> 


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