[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN MIDWEST

tommy at k6ye.com tommy at k6ye.com
Thu Feb 29 00:34:43 EST 2024


Years ago Luso made crank up towers available to 150' for US hams 
(LUSO.COM). K9CT had (available on YOUTUBE) one up but I am not sure of 
the altitude. I believe they did a demonstration at one of the Visalia 
International DX conventions. It is worth a look.

Good luck in your quest.

Semper Fi,

Tommy - K6YE
DX IS and CW RULES




On 2024-02-28 22:04, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:
> Fellas, While my original message stated he was looking for a 100' to 
> 200' Self-Supporting tower-  he would prefer one in the 100' to 140' 
> range.  He has 30 acres of land so plenty of room on-hand but he 
> doesn't want guy wires.  The tower will only be used for a small wind 
> load VHF antenna so a massive Cell tower isn't required. I have a 120' 
> Self-Supporting Pi-Rod Tower with solid steel legs and it's base is 
> only 5' wide, 2' wide at the top.  It was designed for over 20 sq.ft. 
> of wind load which is far more than he needs.  So a small foot print 
> tower, like a Pi-Rod Solid-Steel Leg Tower, in the 100' to 140' range 
> is ideally what he's looking for.     73, Dick- K9OM  In a message 
> dated 2/28/2024 6:00:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> MIDWEST (RVZ)  2. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST 
> (David Gilbert)  3. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST    
>   (charlie at thegallos.com)  4. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE 
> MIDWEST (JP K)  5. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST 
> (Gene Smar)  6. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Steve 
> Maki)  7. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Steve 
> Jones)  8. Re: Broadcast Band Filter (Michael Tope)  9. Re: 
> SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Ken 
> WA8JXM)  ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 
> 1Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:15:46 +0000 (UTC)From: RVZ <rlvz at aol.com>To: 
> towertalk at contesting.comSubject: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER 
> NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <2144127340.2152677.1709144146674 at mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 
> 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for 
> sale??Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
> K9OM ------------------------------ Message: 2Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 
> 11:22:18 -0700From: David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com>To: 
> towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER 
> NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <fb06f9ce-1384-41ce-bacb-577be4ca27cb at gmail.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed   Good luck finding a 200 foot 
> self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would 
> look like? Dave? AB7E   On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk 
> wrote:> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
> Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for sale?>  
> ?Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
> K9OM ------------------------------ Message: 3Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 
> 13:51:34 -0500From: <charlie at thegallos.com>To: 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <014801da6a77$27447020$75cd5060$@thegallos.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain;    charset="utf-8" I mean, the Tesco 200ft self supporter 
> is only 53K, 21 ft spread on the legs.  Small stuff 
> <grin> -----Original Message-----From: TowerTalk 
> <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of David GilbertSent: 
> Wednesday, February 28, 2024 1:22 PMTo: 
> towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER 
> NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST   Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting 
> tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like? Dave  
> AB7E   On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> A ham friend in 
> Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please 
> advise if you know of any for sale?>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
> K9OM_______________________________________________   _______________________________________________TowerTalk 
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> 4Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:51:57 -0800From: JP K <jp at ezoom.net>To: 
> towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER 
> NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <40F721C5-8F4F-43B5-9D63-662452530CB4 at ezoom.net>Content-Type: 
> text/plain;    charset=utf-8 Piece of cake: 
> https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405 I 
> hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it 
> though?  > On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert 
> <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:> > > > Good luck finding a 200 foot self 
> supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look 
> like?> > Dave  AB7E> > > > On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk 
> wrote:>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
> Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>  
> Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> 
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> 5Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:16:59 +0000 (UTC)From: Gene Smar 
> <ersmar at verizon.net>To: RVZ <rlvz at aol.com>, RVZ via TowerTalk 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <170980480.1580775.1709147819579 at mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=UTF-8 He can look into Trylon. They're a Canadian 
> manufacturer and I have one of their medium duty Titan models. He'll 
> need to ask about their heavy duty commercial models. We used them on a 
> cell phone project in Haiti and they're monsters.?73 de?Gene Smar 
> AD3F? Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop    On Wed, Feb 
> 28, 2024 at 1:16 PM, RVZ via TowerTalk<towertalk at contesting.com> 
> wrote:  A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
> Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for 
> sale??Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- 
> K9OM_______________________________________________   _______________________________________________TowerTalk 
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>   ------------------------------ Message: 6Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 
> 14:32:07 -0500From: Steve Maki <lists at oakcom.org>To: towertalk 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <ea3faa21-558c-4a45-b49f-bce2a0b4a6c2 at oakcom.org>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The weak spot is where it 
> transitions from tapered to straight @ 140'. Generally it will handle 
> whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower will handle, which isn't 
> nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer. The companies that make SS 
> towers seem to have settled on that basic design - mainly varying the 
> number of straight sections to satisfy loading requirements. The 
> straight sections are normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 
> 40' of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve 
> K8LX  On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of 
> cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405>> 
> I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it 
> though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David 
> Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 200 foot 
> self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would 
> look like?>>>> Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via 
> TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
> Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>>  
> Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> 
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> 7Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:13:19 -0800From: "Steve Jones" 
> <n6sj at earthlink.net>To: "'Steve Maki'" <lists at oakcom.org>, 
> "'towertalk'"    <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 
> SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: 
> <000701da6a82$942b0130$bc810390$@earthlink.net>Content-Type: 
> text/plain;    charset="UTF-8" And does he have a fall radius of more 
> than 200'?  The neighbors might otherwise get 
> nervous!73,SteveN6SJ   -----Original Message-----From: TowerTalk 
> <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve MakiSent: 
> Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AMTo: towertalk 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST The weak spot is where it transitions from 
> tapered to straight @ 140'. Generally it will handle whatever that 60' 
> piece of 4' on a side tower will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is 
> a good manufacturer. The companies that make SS towers seem to have 
> settled on that basic design - mainly varying the number of straight 
> sections to satisfy loading requirements. The straight sections are 
> normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 40' of straight, 
> sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve K8LX  On 
> 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of > 
> cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> 
> upporting-tower-306405>> I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more 
> than a bird house on it > though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, 
> David Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 
> 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that 
> would look like?>>>> Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via 
> TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' 
> Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>>  
> Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> 
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> 8Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:45:49 -0800From: Michael Tope 
> <W4EF at dellroy.com>To: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] 
> Broadcast Band FilterMessage-ID: 
> <d3d5e084-b1f3-4b97-ab8d-ae3d7720638a at dellroy.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed A very good way to check for 
> this is to put an attenuator (10 to 20dB) between the radio and the 
> antenna which is picking up the sort of bleed-through Mike describes. 
> If the bleed-through doesn't go away when you add-in the external 
> attenuation, the problem is likely NOT in the radio. Switching in the 
> radio's internal front-end attenuation isn't always sufficient. I had a 
> case where the bias on the PIN diodes that switched high-pass filters 
> into the receiver front-end of one of my radios was being modulated by 
> the very strong BCI from a nearby 4-tower array that favored me more 
> during the day. Switching in the radio's front-end attenuation didn't 
> help. I had to attenuate the signal ahead of that PIN diode switched 
> filter-bank in order to reduce the bleed through.? When I did that, the 
> bleed-through stopped, so I knew the QRM was being generated inside the 
> radio. 73, Mike W4EF.........  On 2/27/2024 10:47 AM, john at kk9a.com 
> wrote:> I have no filter suggestions but just be aware if the 
> interference is from> rectification at your station, filters will not 
> help.>> John KK9A>> From:    "Mike Ryan" K4CVL wrote:>> During the last 
> 160m SSB contest it became obvious that I am in need of a> serious 
> broadcast band filter.  Though I currently have one in-line that I> 
> bought a dozen years ago (cannot recall what brand) I appear to be 
> getting> some bleed through from 1420 AM. If only it were good music, 
> or even bad> music. But the 'fire and brimstone' programs and subject 
> matter are more> than I can take. Suggestions?  - Mike, K4CVL>>> 
> _   ------------------------------ Message: 9Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 
> 17:59:05 -0500From: Ken WA8JXM <wa8jxm at gmail.com>Cc: towertalk 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID:    
> <CAABDLm0GR=RiENWms27vGv662P32JizUbzmQnzZN+Cjo-tfJCQ at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have seen used towers on Craig's list and 
> Facebook Marketplace. Ken WA8JXM On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 3:13?PM Steve 
> Jones <n6sj at earthlink.net> wrote: > And does he have a fall radius of 
> more than 200'?  The neighbors might> otherwise get nervous!> 73,> 
> Steve> N6SJ>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: TowerTalk 
> <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Maki> Sent: 
> Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AM> To: towertalk 
> <towertalk at contesting.com>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING 
> TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST>> The weak spot is where it transitions 
> from tapered to straight @ 140'.> Generally it will handle whatever 
> that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower> will handle, which isn't nothing. 
> Sabre is a good manufacturer.>> The companies that make SS towers seem 
> to have settled on that basic> design - mainly varying the number of 
> straight sections to satisfy loading> requirements. The straight 
> sections are normally 4' face width.> We often get towers with 40' of 
> straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for> the beefier ones.>> -Steve 
> K8LX>>> On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> > Piece of> > 
> cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> 
> > upporting-tower-306405> >> > I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it> > though?> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any> idea at all what that would look like?> >>> >> Dave  AB7E> >>> >>> >>> >> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> >>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting> tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?> >>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> >> _______________________________________________> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> TowerTalk mailing list> >> TowerTalk at contesting.com> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk> > _______________________________________________> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > TowerTalk mailing list> > TowerTalk at contesting.com> >
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