[TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN MIDWEST

Wed Feb 28 23:04:35 EST 2024

Fellas, While my original message stated he was looking for a 100' to 200' Self-Supporting tower-  he would prefer one in the 100' to 140' range.  He has 30 acres of land so plenty of room on-hand but he doesn't want guy wires.  The tower will only be used for a small wind load VHF antenna so a massive Cell tower isn't required. I have a 120' Self-Supporting Pi-Rod Tower with solid steel legs and it's base is only 5' wide, 2' wide at the top.  It was designed for over 20 sq.ft. of wind load which is far more than he needs.  So a small foot print tower, like a Pi-Rod Solid-Steel Leg Tower, in the 100' to 140' range is ideally what he's looking for.     73, Dick- K9OM  In a message dated 2/28/2024 6:00:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, towertalk-request at contesting.com writes: 
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Re: Broadcast Band Filter (Michael Tope)  9. Re: SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST (Ken WA8JXM)  ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:15:46 +0000 (UTC)From: RVZ <rlvz at aol.com>To: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <2144127340.2152677.1709144146674 at mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for sale??Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM ------------------------------ Message: 2Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 11:22:18 -0700From: David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com>To: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <fb06f9ce-1384-41ce-bacb-577be4ca27cb at gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed   Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like? Dave? AB7E   On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for sale?>  ?Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM ------------------------------ Message: 3Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:51:34 -0500From: <charlie at thegallos.com>To: <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <014801da6a77$27447020$75cd5060$@thegallos.com>Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8" I mean, the Tesco 200ft self supporter is only 53K, 21 ft spread on the legs.  Small stuff <grin> -----Original Message-----From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of David GilbertSent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 1:22 PMTo: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST   Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like? Dave  AB7E   On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM_______________________________________________   _______________________________________________TowerTalk mailing listTowerTalk at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk     ------------------------------ Message: 4Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:51:57 -0800From: JP K <jp at ezoom.net>To: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <40F721C5-8F4F-43B5-9D63-662452530CB4 at ezoom.net>Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8 Piece of cake: https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405 I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it though?  > On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:> > > > Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like?> > Dave  AB7E> > > > On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> _______________________________________________> > > > _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk   ------------------------------ Message: 5Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:16:59 +0000 (UTC)From: Gene Smar <ersmar at verizon.net>To: RVZ <rlvz at aol.com>, RVZ via TowerTalk <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <170980480.1580775.1709147819579 at mail.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 He can look into Trylon. They're a Canadian manufacturer and I have one of their medium duty Titan models. He'll need to ask about their heavy duty commercial models. We used them on a cell phone project in Haiti and they're monsters.?73 de?Gene Smar AD3F? Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop    On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 1:16 PM, RVZ via TowerTalk<towertalk at contesting.com> wrote:  A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.? Please advise if you know of any for sale??Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM_______________________________________________   _______________________________________________TowerTalk mailing listTowerTalk at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk    ------------------------------ Message: 6Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:32:07 -0500From: Steve Maki <lists at oakcom.org>To: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <ea3faa21-558c-4a45-b49f-bce2a0b4a6c2 at oakcom.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The weak spot is where it transitions from tapered to straight @ 140'. Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer. The companies that make SS towers seem to have settled on that basic design - mainly varying the number of straight sections to satisfy loading requirements. The straight sections are normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 40' of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve K8LX  On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-supporting-tower-306405>> I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like?>>>> Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> _______________________________________________>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>> TowerTalk mailing list>> TowerTalk at contesting.com>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk> _______________________________________________>>>> _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk  ------------------------------ Message: 7Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:13:19 -0800From: "Steve Jones" <n6sj at earthlink.net>To: "'Steve Maki'" <lists at oakcom.org>, "'towertalk'"    <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID: <000701da6a82$942b0130$bc810390$@earthlink.net>Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8" And does he have a fall radius of more than 200'?  The neighbors might otherwise get nervous!73,SteveN6SJ   -----Original Message-----From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve MakiSent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AMTo: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST The weak spot is where it transitions from tapered to straight @ 140'. Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer. The companies that make SS towers seem to have settled on that basic design - mainly varying the number of straight sections to satisfy loading requirements. The straight sections are normally 4' face width. We often get towers with 40' of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for the beefier ones. -Steve K8LX  On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> Piece of > cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> upporting-tower-306405>> I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it > though?>>>> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:>>>>>>>> Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any idea at all what that would look like?>>>> Dave  AB7E>>>>>>>> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:>>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?>>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM>> _______________________________________________>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>> TowerTalk mailing list>> TowerTalk at contesting.com>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk> _______________________________________________>>>> _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk_______________________________________________   _______________________________________________TowerTalk mailing listTowerTalk at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk    ------------------------------ Message: 8Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:45:49 -0800From: Michael Tope <W4EF at dellroy.com>To: towertalk at contesting.comSubject: Re: [TowerTalk] Broadcast Band FilterMessage-ID: <d3d5e084-b1f3-4b97-ab8d-ae3d7720638a at dellroy.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed A very good way to check for this is to put an attenuator (10 to 20dB) between the radio and the antenna which is picking up the sort of bleed-through Mike describes. If the bleed-through doesn't go away when you add-in the external attenuation, the problem is likely NOT in the radio. Switching in the radio's internal front-end attenuation isn't always sufficient. I had a case where the bias on the PIN diodes that switched high-pass filters into the receiver front-end of one of my radios was being modulated by the very strong BCI from a nearby 4-tower array that favored me more during the day. Switching in the radio's front-end attenuation didn't help. I had to attenuate the signal ahead of that PIN diode switched filter-bank in order to reduce the bleed through.? When I did that, the bleed-through stopped, so I knew the QRM was being generated inside the radio. 73, Mike W4EF.........  On 2/27/2024 10:47 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote:> I have no filter suggestions but just be aware if the interference is from> rectification at your station, filters will not help.>> John KK9A>> From:    "Mike Ryan" K4CVL wrote:>> During the last 160m SSB contest it became obvious that I am in need of a> serious broadcast band filter.  Though I currently have one in-line that I> bought a dozen years ago (cannot recall what brand) I appear to be getting> some bleed through from 1420 AM. If only it were good music, or even bad> music. But the 'fire and brimstone' programs and subject matter are more> than I can take. Suggestions?  - Mike, K4CVL>>> _   ------------------------------ Message: 9Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:59:05 -0500From: Ken WA8JXM <wa8jxm at gmail.com>Cc: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWESTMessage-ID:    <CAABDLm0GR=RiENWms27vGv662P32JizUbzmQnzZN+Cjo-tfJCQ at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have seen used towers on Craig's list and Facebook Marketplace. Ken WA8JXM On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 3:13?PM Steve Jones <n6sj at earthlink.net> wrote: > And does he have a fall radius of more than 200'?  The neighbors might> otherwise get nervous!> 73,> Steve> N6SJ>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Maki> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:32 AM> To: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] SELF-SUPPORTING TOWER NEEDED IN THE MIDWEST>> The weak spot is where it transitions from tapered to straight @ 140'.> Generally it will handle whatever that 60' piece of 4' on a side tower> will handle, which isn't nothing. Sabre is a good manufacturer.>> The companies that make SS towers seem to have settled on that basic> design - mainly varying the number of straight sections to satisfy loading> requirements. The straight sections are normally 4' face width.> We often get towers with 40' of straight, sometimes just 20' or 10' for> the beefier ones.>> -Steve K8LX>>> On 02/28/24 1:51 PM, JP K wrote:> > Piece of> > cake:https://www.tessco.com/product/s3tl-series-vl-200ft-100mph-self-s> > upporting-tower-306405> >> > I hope he doesn?t want to put anything more than a bird house on it> > though?> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2024, at 10:22?AM, David Gilbert<ab7echo at gmail.com>  wrote:> >>> >>> >>> >> Good luck finding a 200 foot self supporting tower. Does he have any> idea at all what that would look like?> >>> >> Dave  AB7E> >>> >>> >>> >> On 2/28/2024 11:15 AM, RVZ via TowerTalk wrote:> >>> A ham friend in Illinois in looking for a 100'-200' Self-Supporting> tower.  Please advise if you know of any for sale?> >>>  Thanks & 73,Dick Van Zandt- K9OM> >> _______________________________________________> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> TowerTalk mailing list> >> TowerTalk at contesting.com> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk> > _______________________________________________> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > TowerTalk mailing list> > TowerTalk at contesting.com> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk> _______________________________________________>>>> _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk>>> _______________________________________________>>>> _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk>  ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________TowerTalk mailing listTowerTalk at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk  ------------------------------ End of TowerTalk Digest, Vol 254, Issue 14******************************************