[TRLog] Re: [ct-user] Booting to DOS with Windows ME?

Alan Braun albraun@earthlink.net
Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:10:30 -0000


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I knew about this. What I wanted was to restore the boot-to-DOS option =
in the shutdown menu. I tried the fix that was posted at 1st, which =
involved patching 3 of the startup files. BEWARE! Here is what happened =
to me:

1. After the patch, ME would boot ONLY to DOS in what it termed an =
"emergency boot" configuration.=20
2. When I tried restoring my original boot files, which I'd saved in a =
separate directory, ME would no longer boot at all. Instead I got the =
"invalid boot disk" message.
3. Rebooting from a floppy and doing the "sys" command fixed ME, but =
trashed the dual boot option in XP.
4. Trying to reinstall XP trashed ME.
5. End result: I wiped both drives and started over. That is why it has =
taken me this long to respond to these messages.

What I've learned from this:
-Windows sucks in all its versions
-Don't mess with the boot files
-There is a quick fix if you have a dual boot system that somehow gets =
its startup menu screwed up. I found out about it much too late while on =
the phone with a M$ support technician.
-And oh, BTW, CT and TR will not even start up under XP without doing =
some tweaking that I'm not sure I want to try after all of this.

Thanks for the suggestions though. I think I'm going to stick with =
either booting from a floppy or the F8 option from now on.

73

Alan NS0B
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John Scott=20
  To: Alan Braun=20
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 4:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [ct-user] Booting to DOS with Windows ME?


  One used to be able to press the F5 or F8 key when you see the =
"Starting Windows..." prompt in Win95 or Win98 to get the choice of a =
DOS prompt.  Did you try that?=20
   --John Scott,  K8YC=20
   =20

  Alan Braun wrote:=20

    I saw a message on one of these groups a month or two ago pointing =
to a file somewhere, that explains how to patch the startup files for =
Windows ME to restore the "restart in DOS mode" option that earlier =
windows versions supported. (the option that comes up during the =
shutdown sequence in Win 98, 95 etc). I thought I had saved it but =
unfortunately did not. Can someone point me to it again? I'm rebuilding =
my system as a dual boot Win ME/Win XP and have found, not to my =
surprise, that I can't run TR-log or CT under XP without some =
significant tweaking. I'd appreciate any help the assembled multitude =
can provide. Once I get it running I'll gladly offer my new-found =
expertise to anyone with questions. Alan Braun NS0B=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I knew about this. What I wanted was to =
restore the=20
boot-to-DOS option in the shutdown menu. I tried the fix that was posted =
at 1st,=20
which involved patching 3 of the startup files. BEWARE! Here is what =
happened to=20
me:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. After the patch, ME would boot ONLY =
to DOS in=20
what it termed an "emergency boot" configuration. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. When I tried restoring my original =
boot files,=20
which I'd saved in&nbsp;a separate directory, ME would no longer boot at =
all.=20
Instead I got the "invalid boot disk" message.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Rebooting from a floppy and doing =
the "sys"=20
command fixed ME, but trashed the dual boot option in XP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Trying to reinstall XP trashed =
ME.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. End result: I wiped both drives and =
started=20
over. That is why it has taken me this long to respond to these=20
messages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What I've learned from =
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Windows sucks in all&nbsp;its=20
versions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Don't mess with the boot =
files</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-There is a quick fix if you have a =
dual boot=20
system that somehow gets its startup menu screwed up. I found out about =
it much=20
too late while on the phone with a M$ support technician.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-And oh, BTW,&nbsp;CT and TR will not =
even start up=20
under XP without doing some tweaking that I'm not sure I want to try =
after all=20
of this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the suggestions though. I =
think I'm=20
going to stick with either booting from a floppy or the F8 option from =
now=20
on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alan NS0B</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djascott@ix.netcom.com =
href=3D"mailto:jascott@ix.netcom.com">John=20
  Scott</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dalbraun@earthlink.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:albraun@earthlink.net">Alan Braun</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 26, 2001 =
4:09=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ct-user] Booting =
to DOS=20
  with Windows ME?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>One used to be able to press the F5 or F8 key when you =
see the=20
  "Starting Windows..." prompt in Win95 or Win98 to get the choice of a =
DOS=20
  prompt.&nbsp; Did you try that?=20
  <P>&nbsp;--John Scott,&nbsp; K8YC <BR>&nbsp;=20
  <P>Alan Braun wrote:=20
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    <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>I saw a message on one of these =
groups a=20
    month or two ago pointing to a file somewhere, that explains how to =
patch=20
    the startup files for Windows ME to restore the "restart in DOS =
mode" option=20
    that earlier windows versions supported. (the option that comes up =
during=20
    the shutdown sequence in Win 98, 95 etc). I thought I had saved it =
but=20
    unfortunately did not. Can someone point me to it again? I'm =
rebuilding my=20
    system as a dual boot Win ME/Win XP and have found, not to my =
surprise, that=20
    I can't run TR-log or CT under XP without some significant=20
    tweaking.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>I'd =
appreciate=20
    any help the assembled multitude can provide. Once I get it running =
I'll=20
    gladly offer my new-found expertise to anyone with=20
    questions.</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>Alan Braun=20
    NS0B</FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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