FW: [TRLog] What's In The Zone

Bob Wanderer aa0cy@VRINTER.NET
Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:10:44 -0500


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Here's two votes for this feature.  What are your thoughts
on this, Tree?

73, Bob AA0CY

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	David & Amy McCarty
> [mailto:mccarty@hal-pc.org] 
> Sent:	Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:58 PM
> To:	Bob Wanderer
> Subject:	RE: [TRLog] What's In The Zone
> 
> I think I see your point, Bob.
> 
> One of the reasons I find this to be better in the head is
> that I tend to want to type less.  That's why it's good
> for the computer to pre-fill the zone -- less typing.
> 
> Another is that I can process the question of "what's in
> Zone 26?" as fast as I could type it and read it, while my
> hands put the frequency in the B VFO and tune up to the
> next pileup.
> 
> On the other hand, I'm getting less able to accurately
> remember exactly which countries I have worked in a given
> zone so far on a given band, so a feature that gave me log
> information along with the static information would be
> *very* helpful.  That's what I want out of the computer,
> real-time data.  The countries in a given zone changes
> only every few months or so at the fastest.  So I like
> your idea about a feature that would allow you to type in
> the exchange and get a list of countries that match the
> zone highlighted just like the remaining countries list.
> Perfect!  I also had an idea a few years ago that you'd
> want to do the same thing in the ARRL DX Contest with the
> power.  (Now who was it that I worked signing 59 777?)  I
> found the Alt-L to get me close, so I never asked Tree for
> it.  Your idea is good enough to ask for.
> 
> Hope you had fun this weekend.  I did, but I erased my log
> at the end of my operating time last night (sleep
> deprivation).  The recovered file is not healthy yet.  So
> I've got to go back out to the station and spend some time
> with Norton.  What a stupid mistake, done very quickly (to
> really mess things up it takes a computer).
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Bob Wanderer [mailto:aa0cy@VRINTER.NET] 
> Sent:	Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:17 PM
> To:	David & Amy McCarty
> Cc:	TR
> Subject:	RE: [TRLog] What's In The Zone
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David & Amy McCarty [mailto:mccarty@hal-pc.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 7:07 PM
> To: Bob Wanderer
> Subject: RE: [TRLog] What's In The Zone
> 
> 
> Not to dis ya, but ain't that what a map is for?
> Yep, but I don't have one hanging on the wall and don't
> feel like finding one.  Ain't that what a computer is
> for--to allow you to have that information at your
> fingertips.  I've used TR for a good six or so years and
> love it, but CT and NA do provide that data and I don't
> see why TR can't either.  
> 
> 
> Better to learn that info so you don't have to spend
> keystrokes to find it
> out.
> Maybe when I was younger I could keep such arcane data in
> my head, even at 2AM Sunday morning.  Now I can't remember
> where I placed the cup of coffee I was just drinking.
> Again, why should I need to memorize something the program
> should provide?
> 
> Many contesters have spent a lot of time staring at the
> zone map, analyzing
> old logs, etc. to learn what is where and once you know,
> it goes both ways:
> you know what zone to expect from the guy who calls, you
> know what countries
> to expect when you hear the report out from under the
> pileup.
> 
> And you also learn that the W4's, W7's, W8's, UA9's and
> the UA0's aren't
> always in the zone suggested by the computer.
> Add Canadians (Zone 2).  And W7's who don't sign /1
> although I believe the rules require it.  But that's
> besides the point.  I think you're missing the point,
> Dave, which is the program should provide as much
> information as it can so you can do your job.  Your job is
> to be The Operator not The Keeper Of Arcane Knowledge.
> The program gives you the zone (although it IS your job to
> verify it).  I just want a quick way of knowing what
> countries (preferably in two colors for those worked and
> those not) are in any particular zone so if I hear it as
> the exchange, I can quickly tell if I should stick around
> or not.  After many years of contesting where the
> contesting was the thing (i.e. a better score than last
> year), I am back to hunting for new countries and new
> band-countries as the reason to operate.
> 
> 73
> Dave K5GN
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-trlog@contesting.com
> [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On
> > Behalf Of Bob Wanderer
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:20 PM
> > To: TR
> > Subject: [TRLog] What's In The Zone
> >
> >
> >
> > It probably exists, but I can't find it in the manual.
> If
> > it doesn't exist, it ought to.  When you enter a (CQ)
> Zone,
> > the program shows you the (usual) prefix of the
> countries in
> > that zone.  It could be done simply by entering the zone
> > (minus any leading zeroes) followed by <enter>.  Since
> there
> > are no leading zeroes, the program ought not mistake
> that
> > for a frequency [change] on the band you currently are
> on.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob AA0CY
> >
> >
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> >
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