[Trlog] Watching an old friend slowly die

Martin Kratoska ok1rr at qsl.net
Fri Feb 21 18:38:49 EST 2003


I agree completely, Tony. A platform-independent version would help for
sure. My first ideas pointed to Linux version, also discovered the TLF by
PA0RCT. It contains a lot of good things but isn't comparable to TR. It
seems that a Windows version is a dead end (there are several attempts to
make something similar to TR running under Win). Perl, Java? Yes, finally a
good solution, however I would expect that the CW keying, PTT and radio
control would stay the same as in the DOS version, the networking capability
would be improved (with the usual LAN card?).

73 Martin, OK1RR
ok1rr at qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/ok1rr
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Casciato, AI9X" <ai9x at arrl.net>
To: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av at contesting.com>; <trlog at contesting.com>; "Pete
Smith" <n4zr at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Trlog] Watching an old friend slowly die


> Maybe another thought would be since we are at this crossroad, a version
of
> TR that would run universally on any hardware. As time goes by, versions
of
> Windows makes things more difficult to manage (or license). Write
something
> in a portable language like Perl, Java, etc that will run on Windows, Mac,
> Linux - or even a networked application across the internet (dreaming
here).
> Instant messaging runs across the internet and is very "thin" as far as
code
> size (although I'm not an expert on any of the above). Make a version
> client/server for multi-ops for example. Write it in a web language
(PHP?).
> Borrowing from the Mac campaign : "Think Different". Seems all the
> competitors to TR go for Windows only - lets change that.
>
> Break new ground, and TR will gain more users thus surviving and becoming
> better.
>
> I'll try to help if I can...
>
> Tony, AI9X
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr at contesting.com>
> To: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av at contesting.com>; <trlog at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Trlog] Watching an old friend slowly die
>
>
> > At 07:41 PM 2/20/03 -0500, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
> > >It won't matter how many cute features or configurabilities TRLog has
> > >(and some of them are my absolute favorites), I will have to abandon
> > >it because Windows, IP networks, exclusive control, etc, etc, are not
> > >being dealt with.
> > >
> > >I'm not arguing who should do what or why. But the doc is spending his
> > >time on hair color and skin tone and manicures while the patient is
> > >dying of congestive heart failure.
> > >
> > >I'm losing an old friend. And I don't want to.
> > >
> > >Does anybody care?
> > >
> > >Should I just give up and move on?
> >
> >
> > Boy, I thought long and hard about whether to respond to this.  I
> > understand Guy's frustration.  I've been a TRLog user for 8 years now,
and
> > it still serves me very well.  If I were in a multi-op environment, it
> > might be a different story.
> >
> > In the latest ARRL DX CW, I was running SO2R with a bandmap for the S&P
> > radio, and the need to have the entire screen change to switch from one
> > radio to another tends to put a limit on how error-free I can be in
> > operating it.  I'm persuaded that the windows user interface would offer
> > much greater flexibility, but those of us who have been on the reflector
> > for a while recall the abortive port-to-Windows exercise of a couple of
> > years back.  This is the sort of project that will never repay a
> > programmer's time and effort by any conventional measure, which was the
> > show-stopper then.  This would have to be a labor of love.  Any
> > hopelessly-romantic Windows programmers out there?
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > The World HF Contest Station Database was updated 1 Feb 03.
> > Are you current? www.pvrc.org/wcsd/wcsdsearch.htm
> >
> >
> >
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