[UK-CONTEST] SSB Field Day '05
Tom Wylie
tom at gm4fdm.com
Fri Sep 16 16:27:21 EDT 2005
How do you get around that fact that a restriced station IS ONLY ALLOWED TO
USE ONE ANTENNA?
If you use a different antenna for "spotting" or for any other reason - that
to me breaks the rules!!!!
Tom
GM4FDM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Summers" <andy.summers at ttpcom.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] SSB Field Day '05
> Hi,
>
> It's a pity there seems to be a hole in the uk-contest archives. Otherwise
> I
> could have pointed those interested to a post I made to this reflector on
> 31/10/2000. Fortunately, I kept a copy....
>
>>Fellow contesters,
>>
>>It is with great chagrin that I read the rule changes made to Restricted
>>section of SSB Field Day, highlighted by Dave in the NFD results article.
>>What I say has as much relevance to NFD as it does SSB Field Day, but I
>>have a special interest in the latter (2nd place last year).
>>
>>I imagine that the changes are an attempt to tighten-up the rules
>>associated with the increased prevalence of transceivers with a built-in
>>2nd receiver. To my mind the changes have just muddied the waters.
>>
>>We used to be able to have one transmitter and two receivers, now we are
>>only allowed two receivers if it's all built into the same box! Surely
>>that's unfair on those of us who can't afford top-flight rigs? Our group
>>uses two transceivers, one of them in fact being an FT1000MP. We do not
>>use
>>the FT1000MP's 2nd Rx, nor the 2nd Tx. We sign a declaration that we have
>>abided by the rules. The rule changes effectively mean we can't have the
>>2nd Rx in a different box, but why? If the intention is to inhibit
>>cross-band or half-duplex spotting (which would be the case for the
>>FT1000MP), then surely this is hardware specific? What about the homebrew
>>rig with two entirely separate Rx's in the same box?
>>
>>I'm all for tailoring the rules to increase participation and to generate
>>as level a playing field as possible. Personally, I think if you want
>>'reinforce' the difference between Open and Restricted sections, then you
>>want to allow only one Tx and one Rx in the Restricted section. I don't
>>see
>>this as excluding FT1000MP owners. We just have to rely on peoples
>>conscience when they sign the declaration. After all, there's plenty of
>>other ways to cheat if you were so disposed.
>>
>>The implication from Dave's article is that the new rules are expected to
>>stop spotting activities in the Restricted section. However, packet access
>>has now explicitly been endorsed for either section. Again, I see this as
>>being contrary to the principles of a Restricted section, but moreover it
>>does not dissallow the possibility for a private DXCluster network feeding
>>cross- or same-band spots. This certainly isn't in the spirit of a
>>Restricted section.
>>
>>Food for thought?
>
> These comments were largely pooh-poohed at the time.
>
> The rules applicable during 2003 didn't specifically exclude private
> DXClusters. So in that respect we were within the rules. Note that even
> the
> present rules contain ambiguity. The general rules talk only about
> allowing
> DXCluster access, whereas SSBFD specific rules allow "equipment and
> antennas
> for packet radio access above 30MHz". Prior to the changes made to the
> general rules for 2004 they too allowed generalised packet radio access.
>
> It was nearly 10 years ago that I first saw CT networked via transparant
> mode packet at M6T for log sharing. Spots were made using 'gab' because
> there was no built-in means of dealing with campus derived spots. We built
> on this concept by writing our own telnet server to reflect DX
> announcements
> back into CT. This meant the spots came in like normal DXCluster spots and
> enabled simple point-n-shoot. Ironically, we introduced this idea to GB5HQ
> in 2003 where it was used to good effect in 2003 and 2004, so I'm not sure
> why Dave considers it "questionable". However it did result in the changes
> you now see to the RSGB's general rules.
>
> Going back to the legitimacy of our 2003 effort, the spotting station
> didn't
> really need to be co-located. It could have been at one of our houses. It
> was purely for the convenience of changing operators! Nonetheless,
> sufficient antenna separation was obtained to allow in-band spotting. If
> we
> had located the spotting station off-site the setup would have appeared
> exactly as you'd expect for a Restricted setup.
>
> Even though the present rules (might) exclude log sharing via packet,
> there
> would still be nothing stopping the passing of needed mults to a spotting
> station via paper/texting/etc and he/she then announcing any mults found
> to
> the public DXCluster. Of course, others may or may not benefit from them
> also.
>
> It's a mine-field. My preference would be for the Restricted rules to be
> changed back to disallow the use of packet, or in fact ANY form of
> assistance. After all, I consider the Restricted section to be there to
> allow as level a playing field as possible with the simplest, lowest cost
> of
> all set up. Thereby encouraging all Clubs to join in.
>
> Finally, I don't believe we cheated, but we were guilty of being
> innovative
> within the rules. That's what you have to do to get a competitive edge.
>
> 73,
> Andy
> G4KNO
>
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