[UK-CONTEST] N1MM in UK

[Tom Wylie]

I have to disagree with SJJ on this one and it wont be for the first time..

As a contest adjudicator (21/28 Mhz - though for how much longer I dont 
know), Cabrillo has little or
no relevance.   The old summary sheet was much better.

I have great difficulty in deciding exactly which section an entrant is 
entering -

|Multi - all - low"    has little relevanct to the stated sections of 
the Contest and if they are fortunate (or unfortunate - as the case 
might be) to state their antenna, then it gives a more definitive 
opportunity to decide whether it is restrict or not.

Very few overseas entrants complete the cabrillo form adequately or 
properly to give the information the RSGB requires.   Cabrillo was 
written by americans, for americans, for american contests and we have 
tried to capitalise on this for our own ends.

It is of little use when adjudicating one of the bigger GB Logs, when 
90% of the QSOs are unique

Therefore I have taken a step backwards and do the logs manually - when 
a summary sheet is very helpful.   At least it has all the relevant 
information.

Either that - or the RSGB re-does its definition of open and restricted 
- to high and low power - where the antenna is irelevant.   We seem to 
have gone down that road as far as the QRP section is concerned, when 
you are restricted by power, but not antenna.

Tom
GM4FDM

G3SJJ wrote:
> Not sure about your logic here Dave. Cabrillo does not support points 
> allocation although there is space in the header, the rules for RSGB HF 
> Contests don't require a summary sheet and claimed score listings are no 
> longer published. There is ano call for claimes scores to be submitted 
> in the General Rulkes unless you are submitting paper log, whatever they 
> are!!
>
> Can't think that I have calculated scores for such as 160m Contests or 
> Field Days for several years now. There is certainly a case for a sanity 
> check on your own log to weed out any funnies and I have used Excel to 
> do that over a number of years. There is a program called SH5 which 
> pulls out some good check and stats now.
>
> I was amused by a request, I think on this Reflector, for Wronglog to 
> support AFS scoring. Yer what? Presumably the guy had difficulty with 
> adding a zero into his Q total!! I guess AFS points could come down to 1 
> point per Q now. The only reason it was put at 10, as I recall, was to 
> allow points deduction for errors in the exchange, ie 3 points per 
> error. That has since been abolished. So for AFS and Cumulatives you 
> only need a program that will accept an incoming serial number and 
> produce a Cabrillo file. Can't think that I have had an NA, WL or MM 
> file rejected.
>
> The requirement for multi-operators in such as IOTA, CW and SSB Field 
> Day, LP FD and the old 21/28 contests are different in that networking 
> and Cluster are vital. I always found NA to be very easy to set-up and 
> WL was abominable. I think this is where N1MM really comes in to its own 
> apart as well as all the other good things about it.
>
> 73 Chris G3SJJ
>
>
> G3RXP wrote:
>
>   
>> ____________________________________________________________________
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] N1MM in UK
>>
>>
>> . With the Cabrillo  standard now, there is no requirement to submit a 
>> claimed score and the
>>  
>>
>>     
>>> logging program doesn't need this facility. Therefore, scoring during
>>> and after most RSGB HF Contests is unnecessary.
>>>    
>>>
>>>       
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> Chris
>>
>> I agree with you on the lack of scoring info per contact in the Cabrillo 
>> file , however I would never send a log off without having a claimed score. 
>> It not only gives the station a good idea on how he is doing during but also 
>> for scrutiny after the test.
>> I would not accept any logs as an adjudicator without a claimed score.
>>
>> So having a program that's scores correctly is a big benefit, saying that I 
>> do use N1MM most of the time now, and checking the log after the contest is 
>> essential.
>>
>> PS -  Thanks for your input re- N1MM and the 160 scoring in the  RSGB Test.
>>
>> Dave G3RXP 
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