[UK-CONTEST] less than efficient exchanges

[G3SJJ]

I think we all try and encourage lesser experienced people. One of the 
nice things about the N1MM logger and Winkey combo is that the Keyer and 
F Key messages track each other in terms of speed. Several times when I 
had CQed fast and several stations replied, I deliberately went back to 
a slower sender and hit Page Down a couple of times to reduce the speed, 
I could then send either a "canned" message or use my external keyer, 
knowing that both would be sent at the same speed.

Until my recent changeover from Wronglog to N1MM, I have always used the 
"Industry Standard"  for Run ie, type in callsign, hit Enter to pick up 
F5 (His Call) plus F2 (RST/Nr), type incoming exchange and hit Plus to 
log and send F3 (Tu G3SJJ). For S&P, I have mostly used my external 
keyer to send my call then the exchange. Seems to me that one of the 
problems facing an inexperienced operator is this difference between Run 
and S&P, with an array of messages to use.

I would say,  KISS, Keyer Is Simple Sending.

Currently I am trying to get more proficient on ESM (Enter Sends 
Message) which works superbly for Run and S&P, - Enter to CQ, type call, 
Enter to send Exchange, type exchange, Enter to log and send Tu msg. 
Problem with that is it really isn't designed for use with an outboard 
keyer so you can get out of sequence with the messages, as I 
demonstrated graphically with my QSO with G3LET!!

e n has been around a long time Andy, same as h e e. It just seems to 
sound better! Everyone has his own gout, as they say in France!

I am still puzzled though by the M S. I asked for a repeat so many times 
that the guy eventually gave up in disgust. If I could have identified a 
number, maybe I could have got the rest. Just a thought, was it M5?  M S 
I.  Dunno.

Chris G3SJJ


Andy swiffin wrote:

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>>>>Bob G3PJT <g3pjt at btinternet.com> wrote on 24/02/2006 09:35:07:
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>>Hi
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>>Chris has a point, I had a few of them myself . However if you are 
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>>software - perhaps for the first time - it is very easy to do. Just
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>>the 'ins' key rather than ' F2'.
>>So do we really care about this.  One objective of these club events
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>>to get some new contesting people on the air.
>>Moan too much and you drive folks away - a bit of friendly advice
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>>work.
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>I thought the point of these events was to encourage new contesters
>into the game - expect all kinds of weird exchanges - demonstrate good
>practice by example.  Initialy I was hand sending everything and I know
>that when I started off in CW contests (and probably even now on
>occasions!)   I found the workload quite high, sometimes I'd find my
>hand sending the wrong things to give my brain time to catch up!!  I
>know I've done the accidentally sending the recipients call again before
>the report trick when s&p - you just wonder why you did it!  Once you
>start using a logger the possibilities for error multiply in my
>experience.
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>Anyway - you G3 experts aint all youre cracked up to be  - the number
>of times I've received "e n" in response to the report... :-)
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>73
>Andy
>gm8oeg
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