[UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ

Thu Jul 13 16:50:09 EDT 2006

Tom,

So what your saying is that you can win an RSGB contest but be a loser at
the same time? I think we all contest to win, that will not change under the
proposed solution, remember that there is normally a contest team under the
roof of most clubs. The question is, do you think the chance of representing
their nation will be enough to hook them? I think so.

Doug
GM0ELP

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Wylie" <t.wylie at ntlworld.com>
> To: "Douglas Maxwell" <dcmaxwell at iee.org>; "Don Field"
> <don.field at gmail.com>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] GB5HQ
>
>
> > I have to say that I strongly disagree with you Doug.   I dont think the
> > object is to be representative, the object is to win.    There is no
point
> > in competing "at a lesser level".
> >
> > Show me a "good looser" and I'll show you a looser!
> > This Contest is NOT for peoople who dabble in Contests
> > but for skilled and seasoned contesters who can hold their own in the
> melee.
> >
> > You dont get rookies in Formula 1.   There are many Contests available
> > throughout the year for budding contesters to hone their skills.   Being
> > chucked in at the deep end does nothing for personal development and can
> > drag down the whole team.   IARU is a team Contest where every member of
> the
> > team must pull their weight, or there is no point in taking part.
> >
> > I personally dont Contest to be one of the pack.   I enter the larger
> > Contests to win.   I dabble in a lot of contests, CW, SB and RTTY just
to
> > keep my skill level up.
> >
> > Tom
> > GM4FDM
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Douglas Maxwell" <douglas.maxwell at virgin.net>
> > To: "Don Field" <don.field at gmail.com>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] GB5HQ
> >
> >
> > > In my opinion, this is the very reason why private individuals opening
> up
> > > their home stations is not the ideal solution for this particular
> contest.
> > > The current solution is fine for a private contest team but not very
> > > representative of the RSGB. I would rather we competed by offering
> > > affiliated clubs, band/mode slots based on their results in RSGB
> contests.
> > > Yes, we may be competing at a lesser level, but the level of interest
> and
> > > support across the nation would be very much greater. No, I don't mean
> in
> > > terms of points in the contest, I mean in terms of the majority "Tom,
> Dick
> > > or Harry" (quoting G3XTT) RSGB members getting involved.
> > > The above solution may inspire contesters and normal RSGB members
> > > together,
> > > to progress their club stations and their contest operating skills,
with
> > > the
> > > goal being, the honour of representing their nation. I feel that this
> > > solution is more representative of the RSGB than the current one. This
> is
> > > a
> > > classic example of working as a team.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > GM0ELP
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Don Field" <don.field at gmail.com>
> > > To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] GB5HQ
> > >
> > >
> > >> It might be worth a reminder that, for many years, GB5HQ was a modest
> > >> single-station effort from Potters Bar. Then the playing field
changed
> > > when
> > >> HQ stations were able to set up from many sites and compete with each
> > > other.
> > >> Steve G4JVG, so I am told, took the initiative at WRTC in Finland 3
> years
> > >> ago, to try and get a new-style GB5HQ in place. Since then (not a
very
> > > long
> > >> period) GB5HQ has gone from strength to strength, thanks in
substantial
> > >> measure to Dave G4BUO who took up the poisoned chalice of trying to
> > >> co-ordinate things. But many others have put in a vast effort, not
> least
> > >> John G3WGV who has modified StarLog to accommodate the complex
> > > requirements
> > >> (it appears to have worked somewhat better than Wintest, which is
used
> by
> > >> several European groups, and is substantially easier to network than
> > >> Writelog).
> > >>
> > >> And as I tried to say in an earlier post (while still exhausted from
> the
> > >> weekend!), the effort relies totally on private individiuals opening
up
> > >> their home stations, which means their homes. There simply aren't the
> > >> sort
> > >> of club stations in the UK which would do the job. This is why the
> hosts
> > >> must have final say on who operates, etc. It simply cannot be imposed
> on
> > >> them by RSGB or any other external body. This is a classic example of
> > >> volunteers working together.
> > >>
> > >> Don G3XTT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/10/06, Chris Tran <zl1ct at gm7v.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello all
> > >> >
> > >> > Peter G3LET - I was surprised and disappointed to read your
comments
> > > about
> > >> > GB5HQ - your qualified apology does not impress me either. Could I
> > >> > tactfully
> > >> > suggest that you don't have a clue as to how much is involved in
the
> > > GB5HQ
> > >> > infrastructure and should perhaps have waited before posting to
this
> > >> > reflector ?
> > >> >
> > >> > At our 40m SSB GB5HQ station, we did have a less experienced
operator
> > >> > on
> > >> > the
> > >> > mic for about 45 minutes - at a quieter time - this may or may not
> have
> > >> > cost
> > >> > us a few QSOs, but this operator had helped for many hours with the
> > >> > unglamorous setting-up work.
> > >> >
> > >> > Until 7 years ago, no-one was interested in operating GB5HQ - it is
> now
> > >> > evolving rapidly and performing better each year in a difficult
> > > mid-summer
> > >> > contest. I would expect changes and additions to the stations
> involved
> > >> > next
> > >> > year and in subsequent years.
> > >> >
> > >> > 73
> > >> > Chris
> > >> > GM3WOJ
> > >> >
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