[UK-CONTEST] Best Radio & 2m Trophy activity.
Ian Burns
ian at g0afh.com
Wed Sep 10 08:54:17 EDT 2008
Hi All
Marconi is popular with our group as it requires minimum effort (use my
station) and we have a good session down the pub on Saturday night. Add
to that the chance of working some good dx and still being in with a
chance of winning even with a hangover and it's easy to see why! With so
few other entrants the chances of being in the top3 is very high. Why is
support for this contest so poor in the UK?
I've not seen much in the way of self spotting by uk calls at all but I
have seen the odd 'confirmation report' sent on KST. That said I also
heard a locator being passed on by a third party on air during the
contest at the weekend which is certainly not in the spirit of the contest.
When the rule banning the use of KST was introduced I did consider
continuing to use KST but only submitting a checklog. I was bitter for
weeks and still think the rule sucks. I'm often connected before the
contest and if there is a chance of working something really tasty then
checklog it will be!
Ian.
Jiri Culak wrote:
> Hello Ian
>
> Good stuff. Yes Marconi is very very popular in Europe and most of "big
> guys" are always on, even there is a myth of always failing equipment
> during Marconi...(I experienced few as OK2KYC hihi)
> When I moved to UK permanently in 2004 I found ir hard going on VHF
> where I enjoy the hobby the most and found that some of the rules
> actually works against increased activity are too conservative. I do
> love idea of Field Day being Filed day (in OK,DL you can operate from
> Fixed) but we were always doing everything field day style and it is fun
> despite bad WX etc.
> I was coming on UKAC to give away points, work OK1RD and SK7MW in CW
> with small station, but now I cannot be bothered. May be it is time to
> look at some statistics and yell opinions towards VHFCC?
>
> In 2006 March 144/432 - 31 entries on 2m and 24 on 70cm, 432 Trophy 23
> entries, 38 entries in May 2006 144, 50MHztrophy 35 entries.... etc.
>
>
> We accepted digital modes as part of HF progress, we put CW off the
> exams way forward and now we disabling facilities to do online skeds and
> work more DX which equals having more fun out of hobby... It does makes
> one think, doesn't it?
> I am against Cluster and ON4KST abuse (you can see some self spots from
> EU stations, but none from UK station and if I remember correctly,
> reason for KST/DXC use was taken out was as per info:..... Our rule
> change was intended to clear up a local UK problem of overuse (abuse) of
> self-spotting by some of the "big guns" which was putting off newcomers
> and some of the old hands who felt it unethical...
>
> I could not find any self spots in 2007,6 by hardly any UK station and
> can not think of any newcomer who would be put off by use of facilities,
> that would allow him to actually work stuff with "newcomer" setups, but
> I can think off old hands which just didn't like the wind of change..
>
> I set filter on cluster and pulled list of <DXCALL> = <SPOTTER> for few
> QSOs in 144 IARU 1 VHF Contest.... still, no G's, because there were
> hardly any! :-)
>
> I am speaking for my self and expressing just my own opinion and I would
> be grateful for any comments or point I might be missing.
>
> 73 guys and GL in WAE?
>
> Jiri
>
> Attached:
>
> S57O 144235.0 S57O jn886dt dir HB9,DL
> 1325 08 Sep
> S57M 144083.2 S57M CQ DL
> 1318 08 Sep
> S57O 144253.0 S57O jn86dt beaming dl,sp,yu,yo,o
> 1257 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq to DL HG UT
> 1226 08 Sep
> S57O 144253.0 S57O jn86dt
> 1215 08 Sep
> S57O 144105.0 S57O jn86dt dir pa dl ok sp
> 1143 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq to DL YU
> 1133 08 Sep
> S57O 144105.0 S57O jn86dt dir hb9 dl ok sp
> 1114 08 Sep
> S57M 144348.0 S57M CQ DL
> 1100 08 Sep
> S57O 144105.0 S57O jn86dt dir dl ok sp i8
> 1048 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir DL YU
> 1036 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.0 S57O jn86dt dir i8, dl, ok, sp, yu
> 1036 08 Sep
> S57LM 144115.0 UR7D KN18JT ufb TNX
> 1030 08 Sep
> YO2BBT 144100.0 S57Q cq contest
> 1023 08 Sep
> YO2BBT 144058.0 S57M cq contest
> 1021 08 Sep
> DF0SX 144100.2 S57Q jo62<__>jn76
> 1020 08 Sep
> S57LM 144310.0 DK0BN jn39vx TNX for QSO.
> 1009 08 Sep
> DO7DSV 144252.1 S57O JN86DT
> 1004 08 Sep
> DL7AFB 144063.4 S57M JN76po<tr>JO62kg
> 0955 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.1 S57O jn86dt dir DL,OK,SP,YO,LZ,YU
> 0955 08 Sep
> LZ2ZY 144292.0 S57GM
> 0951 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.0 S57O jn86dt dir hb9,dl,ok,sp,yu
> 0917 08 Sep
> S57Q 144363.2 S57Q cq dir DL I
> 0914 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir DL I
> 0913 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir HG UT I
> 0852 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.2 S57O jn86dt dir HB9,F,F,DL
> 0826 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.2 S57O jn86dt cq DL,DL
> 0812 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir OK YU
> 0810 08 Sep
> S57O 144251.1 S57O jn86dt dir dl,ok,sp,i
> 0740 08 Sep
> S57M 144184.0 S57M CQ DL JN76PO
> 0728 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir OK YU
> 0611 08 Sep
> S57O 144226.9 S57O jn86dt dir i1,dl,ok,sp,ut
> 0608 08 Sep
> S57O 144227.0 S57O jn86dt
> 0517 08 Sep
> S57M 144329.0 S57M CQ DL
> 0515 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 S57O jn86dt dl,yo,i3,ok,
> 0506 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 S57O jn86dt i,dl,ok,sp
> 0346 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 S57O jn86dt sri corr
> 0259 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 JN86DT dir dl,ok,sp,
> 0258 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 S57O jn86dt
> 0134 08 Sep
> S57O 144038.0 S70 jn86dt ew freq
> 0134 08 Sep
> S57O 144111.1 S57O jn86dt dir dl,ok,sp,i
> 0121 08 Sep
> S57Q 144110.0 S57Q cq dir DL YU
> 0053 08 Sep
> S57M 144038.0 S57M
> 0034 08 Sep
> S57O 144111.0 S57O jn86dt
> 0026 08 Sep
> S57O 144095.0 S57O cq from jn86dt dir sm,dl,yo,us
> 0000 08 Sep
> S57M 144043.0 S57M CQ JN76PO
> 2356 08 Sep
> S57M 144043.0 S57M CQ LZ
> 2337 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq dir DL
> 2332 08 Sep
> S57Q 144100.0 S57Q cq test dir DL
> 2300 08 Sep
> S57Q 144276.5 S57Q cq test dir DL
> 2259 08 Sep
> S57M 144362.0 S57M CQ DL
> 2256 08 Sep
> S57O 144324.9 S57O jn86dt dir dl,ok,sp,ut5
> 2246 08 Sep
> S57O 144343.2 S57O jn86dt dir i,dl,ok,sp,ut,yo
> 2224 08 Sep
> S57O 144302.0 S57O jn86dt dir i1,dl,ok,sp,yo
> 2158 08 Sep
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ian Burns
> Sent: 10 September 2008 09:03
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Best Radio & 2m Trophy activity.
>
> I was out with G0FBB for the 2m contest. We made 249 Q's (can't compete
> with the groups on the coast from the site we used..). It was hard going
>
> most of the time although we did manage a couple of reasonable runs.
> Activity from G seemed poor but that may have been due to the wet
> weather.
>
> Conditions weren't as bad as the weather map suggested they might be.
> Nothing exceptional was worked, best DX was AO2V at 939km. We would have
>
> worked more DX if we were able to use KST.
>
> The 2m Marconi CW contest and RSGB 6 hour contest that runs concurrently
>
> in November is very poorly supported in the UK. We have won the 6 hour
> multi op section with 3 (yes three, one per op...) QSO's before now,
> however, ours was the only entry.
>
> Personally I enjoyed the UKAC contests more when KST was allowed. Trying
>
> paths that might just work was always fun. Often the skeds don't work
> and it's just a waste of time that could have been better spent calling
> CQ.
>
> Regards
> Ian.
>
> Jiri Culak wrote:
>
>> Haven't noticed the 40QSOs bit...
>> I was running G0KPW station this year and was dreadfully disappointed
>> with UK activity. I am not big fan of banning skeds over WWConv or KST
>> as it helps small stations to work further distance and from my point
>>
> of
>
>> view it destroys even now poor UK VHF/UHF activity. Marconi Memorial
>>
> is
>
>> another story with even less G's on band. You do not need to have
>>
> super
>
>> station to work DX and last Marconni's contest proved it when QSOs
>>
> over
>
>> 1000km were common with single 9el and 50W!
>> Some may say VHF Contesting is much more difficult than HF, I am not
>> sure about that, but it's certainly more hard work.
>>
>> It is fact that most of DL,ON,PA,OK stations beam more east than west
>> but so far they are not to be blamed for that as we really don't seem
>>
> to
>
>> be active enough. May be time for change?
>>
>> Jiri M0ITY/OK2IT
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Jiri Culak
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ken Eastty
>> Sent: 09 September 2008 23:09
>> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Best Radio & 2m Trophy activity.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2m, I have been fortunate to run it alongside an old Icom IC 251E
>>>
>>>
>> with
>>
>>
>>> Mutek front end in several 'lifts' - it doesn't have all the bells
>>>
> and
>
>>> whistles, but is significantly more sensitive than the 7400.
>>>
>>>
>> I compared that IC 251 against an IC 706 Mk 1 on a number of occasions
>> and
>> couldn't tell the difference albeit from a rather noise location.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> you only had to listen to 2m yesterday during the biggest contest
>>> of the year. I've got a reasonable station and struggled to make more
>>>
>>>
>> than
>>
>>
>>> 40 QSOs in 6 hours.
>>>
>>>
>> That's considerably better than I did, having made the mistake of
>> starting
>> on Saturday afternoon rather than waiting for the 6hr. session on
>>
> Sunday
>
>> I
>> only managed 26 QSO's over 3 sessions, that included 4 GM's with the
>> best DX
>> (GM4ZUK @ 562 km just beating the QSO with GM4AFF by 14 km). Only 1
>>
> PA,
>
>> 2
>> ON's & 1 French portable managed to get signals over the Cotswolds.
>> G0KPW's
>> comment 'only 103 G's' just about sums up UK activity on 2m these days
>> even
>> taking into account the WX & conditions, not a single GW and apart
>>
> from
>
>> G1KHX no one on from the West Country either. It seems that unless you
>> are
>> in JO01 entering this contest is a waste of time.
>> In the 4m Trophy I had 55 QSO's with the only non G's being 2 9A's. 9
>> GW's,
>> 5 GM's and several stations in Cornwall were also active.
>>
>>
>> 73...
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> G3LVP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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