[UK-CONTEST] Decline in 2m contest activity

[Pete Lindsay]

Ray,

Planning to be in EI again at 2500' ASL on 70 and 23 in October - see you on
KST for that 23cms QSO :-)


Pete, G4CLA / EI9E

2008/9/11 Ray James <gm4cxm at yahoo.co.uk>

>
> --- On Thu, 11/9/08, Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com> wrote:
>
> > Wrong!
> Right
>
> Paul, with respect you're putting forward a HF perspective which is not
> relevant.
> This thread is discussing VHF/UHF contesting matters which differ greatly
> due to the different nature of the beast.
>
> The ban on cluster/converse/kst etc stops at 70cm.
> What is your thoughts on the validity or otherwise of contacts that take
> place by schedule by the above systems on bands above 70cm and please
> explain your reasons why?
>
> On a completely different tact.
> Two years ago I wrote to the IRTS asking what they were doing to encourage
> greater microwave activity because for a nation the size of Eire, it was an
> embarrassing fact that the only microwave activity that emanated from the
> Isle appeared on the surface to originate by non-residents.
> DF6NA was active 2 or 3 years ago and I believe VHFCC member G4CLA was
> active earlier this year. I still need EI on 23cm!
> BTW, IRTS never had the courtesy to reply!
> Folk don't usually go straight to microwave band operation. They usually
> cut their teeth on VHF/UHF bands initially.
> 2m EI activity isn't much to write home about....Charlie and a few others
> being the exceptions. 70cm contest/dx activity is another matter...dire.
> You might wish to put some effort to righting the dreadful situation in
> your own country as well as making HF conclusions on ours.
>
> 73 Ray GM4CXM
> XP09g
>
>
> >
> > Since the beginnings of radio, skeds have been used to
> > facilitate DXing - think of Marconi's first
> > trans-atlantic
> > tests.  No matter what medium is used to make the skeds,
> > it makes no difference to the validity of the 2-way
> > contact, so long as the latter is made solely with RF.
> >
> > It's the same today with amateur radio DXing - all
> > that's
> > needed for a valid QSO (for DXCC purposes) is the exchange
> > and acknowledgement of callsigns - how you find the DX
> > does not matter so long as you personally use amateur-band
> > RF to work it.
> >
> > It's not quite the same with contesting.  There are
> > rules
> > which impose constraints.  In general, single-operators
> > are expected to find the DX, as well as work it, all by
> > themselves. For both single-op and multi-op, pre-arranged
> > skeds are out, as also are those arranged (at any time)
> > by any means other than RF on the bands and/or modes
> > corresponding to their entry class.
> >
> > In general (perhaps I'm optimistic), HF contesters
> > understand this and stick to the rules.  It seems to me
> > that some VHF contesters are economical with adherence
> > to the rules, and consider it fair game to arrange
> > skeds by any means at their disposal - after all, isn't
> > everyone else doing it?  And how else could they be
> > expected to have a reasonable number of contest QSOs on
> > VHF/UHF, especially these days when activity is so low?
> > And isn't it all supposed to be fun?
> >
> > As if any of this made a difference!
> >
> > If it's OK to arrange skeds using chat-rooms or
> > spotting
> > networks then, logically, it must be equally OK to arrange
> > skeds by telephone.
> >
> > No contest QSO is valid in the context of rule-breaking.
> > Sure, the QSO happened, but that's not enough to
> > guarantee
> > its validity.
> >
> > 73,
> > Paul EI5DI
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