[UK-CONTEST] Farmers & Contests

[nubsey]

When in a hole stop digging. When in a real deeep hole like this one, look 
for a ladder
Nubsey G0VDZ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Rees" <rees.a at btconnect.com>
To: <don.field at gmail.com>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Cc: <dwilson at btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Farmers & Contests


> Don,
>
> First of all my original email regarding this matter was sent to the UK 
> Contest reflector on the basis that contesters can sometimes get a little 
> over enthusiastic, and ignore some common sense.
>
> The original email was not intended to stir up trouble, nor make a 
> complaint. (I have enough sense to know how to do that). This is why there 
> were no names or call signs in my original email...no names no pack drill. 
> If I wanted to have made a complaint it would have gone directly to those 
> I would be accusing. If I wanted to stir up trouble, I would have included 
> a lot more information than I did. If someone wants to search the internet 
> to find out more then they can easily do that with or without the contents 
> or information in my email. (My QRA Locator is well posted and a 2 second 
> look at the VHF Claimed scores tells the rest).
>
> Secondly, I would not cause deliberate QRM, as you allude to. If I had 
> been at home that particular night, its likely I would not have known 
> about the operation further up the hill, until either shortly before the 
> contest had started, or just after it had started. After it had started I 
> would have shut down, as has happened on other occasions, to let the 
> "visiting amateur" have a go, in deed a number of local VHF operators 
> email or telephone each other prior to a contest to negotiate a mutually 
> convenient location to avoid problems. Further more on other occasions in 
> the past I have shut down or not operated whilst there are others close 
> by, only last Sunday morning an amateur was operating from the top of the 
> hill on VHF, I spotted him as I went for the papers and I decided against 
> going on air.
>
> Perhaps the boot should be on the other foot, and it could be argued that 
> 100 watts (from the visiting station) at a range of 170 yards would create 
> deliberate interference for me...or more to the point interference and 
> equipment de-sensitisation to the receivers and equipment mounted to the 
> PMR mast, and its comms room, located much closer to the visiting amateur 
> station aerials than I. I am fully aware of the PMR station, and I have 
> very tight narrow band filters fitted to my VHF transmission setup. I take 
> additional precautions in that I reduce power when transmitting South East 
> (the direction of the PMR mast). You will see from the RSGB VHF Contests 
> that I have entered that I don't work stations S.East to me. This is the 
> reason why. Perhaps you can substantiate your comments by providing 
> information as to any track record of how and when I have deliberately 
> created QRM ?
> I am not generally active during the week, and only occasionally at 
> weekends. In the past I have loaned "visiting" amateurs equipment, put up 
> masts for them and so on,  so that the problem of transportation and 
> assistance disappears. Making contact, therefore, may have provided a much 
> more efficient station for the visitors. In deed, one of the operators of 
> the station, has been a regular contact of mine the last few years. 
> Perhaps they should have made contact ?
>
> The point I was making was that it may have been wise to try and figure 
> out if anyone else was likely to have been active at the time, in the 
> vicinity, for both parties sake, not only to avoid mutual interference, 
> but also some local information about the VHF PMR setup and how to avoid 
> problems.
>
> To be clear, the original posting was not about "having a pop" it was 
> about being savvy and thinking about what you are doing. Neither was it 
> about causing "deliberate QRM", that was a misinterpretation on your 
> behalf, of the original email. Finally it certainly was not intended to 
> cause trouble. As I have stated at the top of this email, no names, no 
> pack drill in the original email.
>
> Turning to your actions and the email you publicly forwarded on from Dave 
> Wilson. I consider it immflammotary of you to have forwarded this on in 
> such a public manner, without considering the basic facts. But you are the 
> messenger, so shouldn't really be shot.
>
> As to the actual email from Dave Wilson, I consider that particular email 
> to be libellous and defamatory, and indeed an email that seems to have at 
> its core a personal attack on myself, scurrilous in nature as it seeks to 
> involve 3rd parties.  I shall not bother responding in any form of detail 
> to the Dave Wilson email as I do not wish to lower my dignity as I 
> consider a response to be a complete waste of time and effort,  neither do 
> I wish to drag in third parties, into what is plainly turning into a fish 
> wifes battle.
>
> However, should this matter continue, then I shall consider further 
> action.
>
> I consider the matter closed.
>
> Adrian Rees
>
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