[UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!

[Rob Harrison]

Hi Bob,

Now I'm confused.

Aiming for the top is a fine ideal, but at any cost is not. That's all I'm 
saying. Maybe it didn't come over like that.

73

Bob G8HGN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!


>
> Well I don't know about modern society old chap but let's not forget we're
> talking about contesting.  Doesn't wanting to come first carry an element 
> of
> legitimacy therein?
>
> Perhaps I'm confused.
>
> 73 Bob, 5B4AGN
>
> 2009/12/10 Rob Harrison <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>> Roger,
>>
>> Sadly that's not the clusters fault, more the "me" factor, and blow 
>> anyone
>> else. But in our "modern" society "I" come first to the detriment of all
>> others. Seeing the other chaps point of view doesn't occur to them, just
>> get
>> you in the log.
>>
>> 73,
>> Bob G8HGN
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roger G3SXW" <g3sxw at btinternet.com>
>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>>
>>
>> >
>> > At a rare station (eg VooDudes) cluster can cut the QSO rate in half.
>> This
>> > is a recent phenomenon: many 'operators' have no clue what they're 
>> > doing,
>> > just hitting the button to send their call-sign continuously. Then the
>> > station to whom I reply does not hear me go back to him through the
>> bedlam
>> > so I have to send the exchange 3-4 times. This kills the operating fun
>> for
>> > me. More recently (especially on 40 mtrs) I've had no option but to 
>> > QSY.
>> > Then I get a few minutes of sensible QSO rate, then the bedlam starts 
>> > all
>> > over again. I sometimes find that I QSY every ten minutes. Plain daft! 
>> > I
>> > realise it's horses for courses: for a non-rare station it might help.
>> But
>> > Cluster users need to put brain in gear before starting their motor.
>> > Cluster
>> > does help us to find mults too, but on balance I nowadays wish it had
>> > never
>> > been invented. Without it I guess that some 20+% more people could get
>> > into
>> > our logs: more QSOs, better scores, our score would also benefit, we 
>> > have
>> > more fun and so are more likely to DXpedition again the following year.
>> > 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
>> > To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:28 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: <mark.haynes at yahoo.co.uk>
>> >>
>> >>> However if we can conclude that overall more QSOs are being made
>> >>> as a result of cluster spots, we must be conscious that this is
>> >>> strengthening the security of not only contests and maintaining
>> >>> interest but also our right to have access to the bands.
>> >>
>> >> I conclude that cluster spots tend to reduce QSO numbers because
>> >> fewer people call CQ, and fewer people search the bands.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Paul EI5DI
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