[UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!

[Bob Henderson]

Bob

I suspect we are confused together.

What a dichotomy!  On the one hand, we seek good manners and a high standard
of operating both within contests and without.  On the other, we face a
plethora of aids, which empower the untalented.  Cluster, skimmer, code
readers, keyboard senders etc.

Finesse is becoming a thoroughly under represented commodity.  Where will it
all end?

Bob, 5B4AGN

2009/12/10 Rob Harrison <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>

> Hi Bob,
>
> Now I'm confused.
>
> Aiming for the top is a fine ideal, but at any cost is not. That's all I'm
> saying. Maybe it didn't come over like that.
>
> 73
>
> Bob G8HGN
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Henderson" <bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
> To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:06 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>
>
>
>> Well I don't know about modern society old chap but let's not forget we're
>> talking about contesting.  Doesn't wanting to come first carry an element
>> of
>> legitimacy therein?
>>
>> Perhaps I'm confused.
>>
>> 73 Bob, 5B4AGN
>>
>> 2009/12/10 Rob Harrison <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>>  Roger,
>>>
>>> Sadly that's not the clusters fault, more the "me" factor, and blow
>>> anyone
>>> else. But in our "modern" society "I" come first to the detriment of all
>>> others. Seeing the other chaps point of view doesn't occur to them, just
>>> get
>>> you in the log.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bob G8HGN
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roger G3SXW" <g3sxw at btinternet.com>
>>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > At a rare station (eg VooDudes) cluster can cut the QSO rate in half.
>>> This
>>> > is a recent phenomenon: many 'operators' have no clue what they're >
>>> doing,
>>> > just hitting the button to send their call-sign continuously. Then the
>>> > station to whom I reply does not hear me go back to him through the
>>> bedlam
>>> > so I have to send the exchange 3-4 times. This kills the operating fun
>>> for
>>> > me. More recently (especially on 40 mtrs) I've had no option but to >
>>> QSY.
>>> > Then I get a few minutes of sensible QSO rate, then the bedlam starts >
>>> all
>>> > over again. I sometimes find that I QSY every ten minutes. Plain daft!
>>> > I
>>> > realise it's horses for courses: for a non-rare station it might help.
>>> But
>>> > Cluster users need to put brain in gear before starting their motor.
>>> > Cluster
>>> > does help us to find mults too, but on balance I nowadays wish it had
>>> > never
>>> > been invented. Without it I guess that some 20+% more people could get
>>> > into
>>> > our logs: more QSOs, better scores, our score would also benefit, we >
>>> have
>>> > more fun and so are more likely to DXpedition again the following year.
>>> > 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
>>> > To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:28 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: <mark.haynes at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> >>
>>> >>> However if we can conclude that overall more QSOs are being made
>>> >>> as a result of cluster spots, we must be conscious that this is
>>> >>> strengthening the security of not only contests and maintaining
>>> >>> interest but also our right to have access to the bands.
>>> >>
>>> >> I conclude that cluster spots tend to reduce QSO numbers because
>>> >> fewer people call CQ, and fewer people search the bands.
>>> >>
>>> >> 73,
>>> >> Paul EI5DI
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