[UK-CONTEST] rules apply even when they can't always beenforced?

[Jiri Culak]

Hmm....well, if you consider RSGB events then maybe. If you talk about IARU
VHF/UHF events then it's a bit over-stretched.
Running from G/EI is disadvantage on its own and to compete against rest of
EU who do have access to KST would be suicide for most others.
(Mainly those not on east coast ;)
But I have read about simillar suicides in the past, WWII is good expample.
We will get beaten hands down, but at least we will get beaten 
with noble idea in our minds.
Guys, technology is going forward, first time DX Cluster came along it
created simillar argtuments.
RTTY... What is RTTY when you need PC/Machine to decode it..is just faster
CW of a sort.
PSK etc. If most uf people here are moaning on creating vertical , indoors,
angry wife and poor location category with little investment,
Maybe it would be fair to at least keep a step with rest of world and
abandon 70's 80's ideas. We are now in world of PCs, internet but still
using
Obsolette comunication technology. Most of us do it for joy, fun and for
feeling of achievement....at least I do...
With all respect, if you look at age spectrum of HAM population, it is not
20-30, is it ?
Do you want followers in hobby? We have few and from that few how many goes
contesting onto VHF and up?

Paul EI5DI - you said something like having a boats with engines as long as
you don't use them... Same as having a software with SCP and locator
database and disabling the feature? ;-)



-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul O'Kane
Sent: 20 May 2009 11:23
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] rules apply even when they can't always
beenforced?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul pasquet" <g4rra at hotmail.com>

> but I do notice that many of the contributors to this thread are not 
> even registered on the KST system so are clearly talking about 
> something they have not experienced.

You don't have to be an actor to be a critic :-)

> Personally I cant see any problem with using KST to increase contacts 
> as long as contest information is not exchanged on the system,as 
> another contributor said earlier its not exactly hard to police that 
> aspect.

And I can't see any problem with using engines in sailing competitions, as
long as they are not used to make the boats go faster.  

> At the moment we have the nonsense that it can be used in this contest 
> but not in that contest,or can be used for contacts on one set of 
> frequencies but not on another.

The "nonsense" lies in the fact that KST is permitted in any contest.  It
should not be, because it is a separate communications technology.

> Should we ban mobile phones just in case groups ring each other to get 
> points?

Yes, because they represent a separate communications technology.

> KST and similar systems are here.

The clear implication is that any new technology can, or should, be used in
any competitive event - simply because it exists.  Now that's what I call
nonsense :-)

> The technology has arrived to take us out of the 70s and 80s 
> contesting world, so get over it, and move on because its not going to 
> go away.

Engines arrived to take us out of the 19th century, but are banned in
sailing competitions.  Traction control is not going to go away, but is
banned in Formula One.

The issue is not whether something is going to go away, but whether it is
appropriate.  In all competitive human activities, it is normal for certain
technologies to be banned when their use might change the nature of the
activity.

I know this is getting tedious, but no supporter of KST has yet answered the
question - are you an amateur radio contester or an amateur internet
contester?

73,
Paul EI5DI
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