[UK-CONTEST] Fw: [WT-support] QSO numbers again

[Mike Farmer]

Worries me to Chris

perhaps next step is software writers should do the contest admin then they
could change the mults to "extras for using XYZ sofware"

Mike G3VAO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
Cc: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: [WT-support] QSO numbers again


Worries me that a software writer wants the rules changed because they
can't accommodate the rules! Tale wagging dog? Never had any problems
with N1MM. I recall NA and Writelog having probs a few years ago.

Chris G3SJJ



Ray - G4FON wrote:
> Jim,
>
> The process I outlined to you has been actively used for some years for
the IOTA contest and the logs are accepted by the contest
> robot to the extent that we achieved a provisional 11th place this year.
>
> There may be an issue, but it is wrong to claim that the technique that I
outlined to you does not work to the satisfaction of the
> contest robot...
>
> 73
>
> Ray, G4FON
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fisher
> Sent: 16 October 2009 17:59
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Cc: MM0BQI; Don Field
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: [WT-support] QSO numbers again
>
> Don,
> Further to our short discussions at the convention regarding serial number
> problems in the IOTA contest Multi op section.
> See a post on the Win Test reflector from the developer describing what
> happens when the serial is allocated as per the description given by Ray
> G4FON.
> Win-test have no plans to implement the change as per the mail below and
> suggest serial numbers per band for multi ops as a better option.
> This is already used as per CQ WPX contest.
>
> When the top contest logging software provider has issues with the IOTA
> serial numbering then I think we should listen to his opinion.
> It is a real pain when the mult station steals the serial and the run
> station has to change the serial given out initially.
>
> IOTA is a great contest and could be even more enjoyable for the multi-op
> entries by using the serial per band for multi op entries as per WPX.
>
> 73
>
> Jim
> GM0NAI
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laurent HAAS - F6FVY" <f6fvy at free.fr>
> To: <support at win-test.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [WT-support] QSO numbers again
>
>
> Hi
>
> This will my only post on this (endless and recurring) topic...
>
> Ian Maude a écrit :
>
>
>> However, if space reserved the number, all those issues would be solved.
>>
>
> Yeah... Certainly...
>
> Study the short simulation below !
>
> 73
>
> Larry - F6FVY
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
>
> We assume one RUN station and only one IN-BAND station.
> We assume a perfect network.
>
> T ! Stn RUN                        ! Stn IN-BAND
> --!-----------------------------------------------------------------
> 1 ! Serial displayed : 001         ! Serial displayed : 001
> 2 ! CQ                             ! S & P
> 3 ! F6ABC replies to CQ            !
> 4 ! I enter F6ABC <Space>          !
> 5 ! So 001 is reserved             ! Serial displayed : 002
> 6 ! I enter the QSO                !
> 7 ! Serial displayed : 002         !
> 8 !                                ! I find and enter ZD8Z <space>
> 9 ! Serial displayed : 003         ! 002 is reserved
> 10! DL6ABC replies to CQ           ! I call ZD8Z but not heard
> 11! I enter DL6ABC                 ! Ditto
> 12! Serial displayed : 004         ! Ditto
> 13! JA6ABC replies to CQ           ! Ditto
> 14! I enter JA6ABC                 ! Ditto
> 15! Serial displayed : 005         ! Yeah ! I (finally) work him !
> 16! G6AA replies to CQ             !
> 17! I enter G6AA                   !
> 18! Serial displayed : 006         ! I find and enter CU2A <space>
> 19!                                ! Serial reserved : 006
> 20! Serial displayed : 007         ! I call CU2A (no reply)
> 21! ON6AA replies to CQ            ! Ditto
> 22! I enter ON6AA                  ! Ditto
> 23! Serial displayed : 008         ! Ditto
> 24! EA4AA replies to CQ            ! Finally CU2A is now QRT :-(
> 25! I enter EA4AA                  ! (F11)
> 26! Serial displayed : 009         ! Serial displayed : 009
>
> Bottom line :
>
> My final time-ordered log looks like :
>
> F6ABC     001
> DL6ABC    003
> JA6ABC    004
> ZD8Z      002
> G6AA      005
> ON6AA     007
> EA4AA     008
>
> 1/ Serial numbers are not sequential (see ZD8Z)
> 2/ Serials are missing : No 006...
>
> End of the story.
>
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