[UK-CONTEST] FW: [CDXC] Re: Short calls & the buro

Andy P Hewitt andyphewitt at btopenworld.com
Fri Apr 30 04:42:29 PDT 2010

Well is this all anti-ecological, all this discussion , are we generating
hot air to warm the planet?

Personally I collect QSls but I certainly don't want a card for every qso,
only those that are new band/mode slots for DXCC. I also use LoTW but
unfortunately not all dx stations nor even DXpeditions use it so the only
way to fulfil my aim of Ten Band DXCC is with cards. Some of the slots I
need are most likely to be obtained in contests, so I would be unhappy if
the cards I send out are binned. Of course increasingly some stations are
qsling on receipt of an email and postage payment by PayPal, that works.
Andy G3SVD

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of tom wylie
Sent: 30 April 2010 11:07
To: UK Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] [CDXC] Re: Short calls & the buro

No, No, No, No - No.

Most contest QSL cards are generated by computer and many of the larger 
contest station appear to generate a QSL file direct from the ADIF File 
after the contest and pack the buro with their cards.   Every year after 
the CQWW Contest the buro is saturated with European cards that in 
reality very few people actually want or need.   By all means if you 
NEED a card ask for one, send for one, but don't just as a matter of 
course send/expect a QSL Card.    QSL cards are a throwback to the early 
days of radio when in order to confirm a QSL has taken place you 
exchanged a letter or later a card confirming the details.

Newcomers to the hobby can now afford a decent radio, amplifier, antenna 
etc buit even with 100 watts it is a straight forward every day 
occurrence to work German, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Poland, Russia - we 
dont need to confirm the QSO has taken place with a piece of paper.

If you feel you need some form of confirmation - take up RTTY and print 
out each and every QSO you make, then you will have a form of written 
confirmation that a QAO took place.

Now it seems you can even send your ADIF file to a guy in Israel who 
will print out and send all your buro cards for you..... in a block 

I am also baffled by the fact that I receive cards via the buro, then 
when I reply to them, they are returned to me because the OTHER station 
is not a member of the buro - how did I receive the cards in the first 

QSL Cards are little more than waste paper and we should be more 
concerned with saving resources on our planet than printing glossy 
pieces of card that nobody wants.....

Save our rain forest - stop QSLing.   With LOTW and E-QSL - who needs it??


Paul_group wrote:
> On 29/04/2010 20:20, CHRIS COLCLOUGH wrote:
>> This is another of the usual "I don't need the card so bin it attitude"
that most contesters have.
> I agree entirely Chris, the very fact that someone sends you a card most 
> likely indicates that they probably rather like them and would want one 
> back.
> The most common ones that I get from HF contests are from rtty contests 
> where often my card overlaps with theirs in the buro... I often get some 
> marked 2nd card PSE QSL! - so I suspect that person is fairly keen.
> Perhaps contests should be limited to ONLY those people who take them 
> seriously and only propper contest modes .... casual operators, qsl 
> collectors and dx'ers should keep away, preferably move away from our 
> segement altogether then we can keep our high rates up... hello hello... 
> is there anyone still there ... cq test cq test.....
> I am grateful for ANY qso during a contest and if that costs me a bit of 
> cardboard then so be it.

I am fully aware that my youth has been spent
That my get up and go - has got up and went
But I really dont mind when I think with a grin
of all the great places my "get up" has been!
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