[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.

[Rob Harrison]

Hi Peter,

Is the stance you took being implemented now?

With the uploader there's no dialogue with a human. Apart from entering 
late, I can't see a process for one to one conversation. Does the 
adjudicator check each log as it comes in, or does he do it after all have 
arrived?

I must admit being contacted after entering a log as a checklog, and being 
asked if that was correct, it was. But I don't remember if the deadline had 
passed by then, the log was in before the due date.

Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Bowyer" <peter at bowyer.org>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.


>
> I always considered an important part my job as an adjudicator was to
> encourage people to enter contests. Where inconsistencies and minor
> infringement in entries were found, a dialogue with the entrant would
> result in a new submission with errors corrected and a warm fuzzy
> feeling for the entrant that their entry was important enough for me
> to spend the time coaching them. When their next entry arrives present
> and correct, that's one more regular entrant on the list.
>
> The important bit of the rules is that which regulates what happens on
> the radio. The paperwork parts are there to facilitate adjudication -
> and it's well within the adjudicator's gift to apply discretion where
> it's warranted. And this includes occasionally allowing entries past
> the deadline if there's a compelling enough reason, and it doesn't
> impact the adjudication process.
>
> Peter G4MJS
>
> On 2 August 2010 19:25, Rob Harrison <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>> Virtually all logs now are via the uploader, so the signature scenario
>> wouldn't apply.
>>
>> Although I have some sympathy with, what was obviously a simple error, 
>> not
>> signing the sheet, just because it happened to be a leading score doesn't
>> mean you can overlook it. If you happened to be on the other side of that
>> bending of the rules, i.e. you were disadvantaged by it, then you'd feel
>> aggrieved.
>>
>> The uploader tells you if you've made an error which you can then correct
>> and re-upload, BST instead of GMT, no serials, etc. The only thing you 
>> have
>> to do youself is get the log in on time. Not too much to ask, and 
>> generally
>> the time given is ample.
>>
>> I've fallen foul of this one once, due to my own stupid fault, but thems 
>> the
>> rules.
>>
>> Bob G8HGN
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Bowyer" <peter at bowyer.org>
>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 2 August 2010 13:16, Mike Farmer <G3VAO at arrl.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A fine example of having a set of rules then bending them to suit - if
>>>> there
>>>> is a limit EVERY log submited after the date should be reclassified as 
>>>> a
>>>> checklog
>>>>
>>>
>>> And so we're back to the days when a European-leading VHF log from the
>>> UK was disallowed entry to RSGB and the IARU contests because of a
>>> missing signature on a coversheet. And other entries because they were
>>> sent by the wrong postal method.
>>>
>>> Lovely. Welcome to the 1980s.
>>>
>>> Peter G4MJS
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>>
>>
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