[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.

[Mike Farmer]

Been away for a bit so this is a catch up message!

I cannot belive the attitude that effectively says "I do not like that rule
so I will not apply it"
I gather that Peter is an adjudicator,  I always thought (and still do) that
part of the adudicators job is to ensure fair play though the application of
the rules.  If we have anyone on the HFCC reading this perhaps he would like
to comment.  At the same time perhaps he should make public the "guidelines
adjudicators have for bending the rules"

My view remains the same you get penalized if you break the rules and if the
adjudicators do not like doing it they should either stop adjudicating
and/or get the rules changed.

Mike Farmer
G3VAO

Inviting Flak from the HFCC



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Bowyer" <peter at bowyer.org>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.


> I always considered an important part my job as an adjudicator was to
> encourage people to enter contests. Where inconsistencies and minor
> infringement in entries were found, a dialogue with the entrant would
> result in a new submission with errors corrected and a warm fuzzy
> feeling for the entrant that their entry was important enough for me
> to spend the time coaching them. When their next entry arrives present
> and correct, that's one more regular entrant on the list.
>
> The important bit of the rules is that which regulates what happens on
> the radio. The paperwork parts are there to facilitate adjudication -
> and it's well within the adjudicator's gift to apply discretion where
> it's warranted. And this includes occasionally allowing entries past
> the deadline if there's a compelling enough reason, and it doesn't
> impact the adjudication process.
>
> Peter G4MJS
>
> On 2 August 2010 19:25, Rob Harrison <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> > Virtually all logs now are via the uploader, so the signature scenario
> > wouldn't apply.
> >
> > Although I have some sympathy with, what was obviously a simple error,
not
> > signing the sheet, just because it happened to be a leading score
doesn't
> > mean you can overlook it. If you happened to be on the other side of
that
> > bending of the rules, i.e. you were disadvantaged by it, then you'd feel
> > aggrieved.
> >
> > The uploader tells you if you've made an error which you can then
correct
> > and re-upload, BST instead of GMT, no serials, etc. The only thing you
have
> > to do youself is get the log in on time. Not too much to ask, and
generally
> > the time given is ample.
> >
> > I've fallen foul of this one once, due to my own stupid fault, but thems
the
> > rules.
> >
> > Bob G8HGN
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Bowyer" <peter at bowyer.org>
> > To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Log Uploader accepting late entries.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 2 August 2010 13:16, Mike Farmer <G3VAO at arrl.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A fine example of having a set of rules then bending them to suit - if
> >>> there
> >>> is a limit EVERY log submited after the date should be reclassified as
a
> >>> checklog
> >>>
> >>
> >> And so we're back to the days when a European-leading VHF log from the
> >> UK was disallowed entry to RSGB and the IARU contests because of a
> >> missing signature on a coversheet. And other entries because they were
> >> sent by the wrong postal method.
> >>
> >> Lovely. Welcome to the 1980s.
> >>
> >> Peter G4MJS
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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