[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee

[cris at gm4fam.plus.com]

I agree 100% with Roger here - shortening the exchange to zone only will
lead to a lot of repeats because a lot of stations send so quickly - a
report is a natural 'lead-in'.

73 Cris
GM4FAM


> Correct thinking, Paul. But let me repeat: it depends on what else is in
> the
> exchange. It must be sufficient to give shape to the transmission and be
> communicated quickly and efficiently. My example was non-island stations:
> you send your exchange + hand back to him and all you hear is " 1 ", sent
> at
> 30wpm, once. Bit daft, innit! Like in CQWW you might just hear " AE " (15
> short-code) or 'fifteen' barked once in a foreign accent. Daft! Wherever
> there is only ONE other element eg serial number (or zone number) then RST
> shouldn't be dropped, IMO.
>
> The other issue is accuracy of logging. We already these days have higher
> error rates (and point deductions in log-checking) as a result of snappy
> operating, compared with the old days. There has to be a balance here
> somewhere. But . . . each to his own! Next you will suggest swapping ONLY
> call-signs, then it will be just a list of call-signs heard (like ISS).
> Then
> 2-way contacts become 1-way. No, each contest needs individual
> consideration. Dropping the signal-report for Sprints was sensible because
> there is more than one exchange element AND because both call-signs must
> be
> transmitted.
> 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roger G3SXW" <g3sxw at btinternet.com>
>>
>>> non-island stations with no IOTA reference to send would be
>>> left too little to send and keep 'shape' to the QSO.
>>
>> QSOs in major HF contests have a simple shape.
>> They consist of Callsign + Exchange (when you're
>> running) or Exchange (when you're not running).
>>
>> RST is still exchanged only because that's the
>> way it has always been.  Up to about 40 years
>> ago it may have had some significance in major
>> HF contests, just as it still has in VHF contests.
>> However, we all know, from HF events like the
>> Sprints, that you don't miss it when you don't
>> expect it.
>>
>> All that has to happen is that the rules of
>> any major HF event change to make the exchange
>> of 5NN optional and, within two years, we will
>> wonder why we kept it for so long.  The IOTA
>> contest is an obvious candidate because it has
>> a longer exchange than most.
>>
>> If Roger calls me in IOTA and I reply with
>> G3SXW 089 EU115, I expect he will deal with it
>> and that's all he has to type/log.  He knows
>> that once he hears his call, the important bit
>> (the exchange) is likely to follow.   When he
>> replies with 132 EU5 (he's faster than me), I
>> can deal with it.
>>
>> When I send my call and exchange to a non-island
>> station, and hear nothing but 008 or 461 or 2097
>> in return - it's no problem.  What more is there
>> to say?
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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