[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee

[Roger G3SXW]

Paul - you are repeating yourself, old man! Your case for IOTA stations may 
have some logic, but this is how it'd look for non-IOTAs:

Me:    F5AA TEST
You:   DL1AA
Me:    DL1AA E  (you log 5)
You:   A (I log 1)
Me:    TU F5AA

Pretty silly!  At bare minimum there must be (now it's me repeating) at 
least two exchange-elements: signal report, serial number or IOTA reference. 
Or force call-sign exchange at every transmission - no thanks! Or IOTA 
stations drop RST but non-IOTA still send it. Also pretty daft! There has 
never been a contest with only ONE exchange-element - for good reason! It's 
too late to exclude non-IOTA/non-IOTA contacts from the contest.

The broader issue here is QSO rate. If we CQ with replies every five minutes 
then this discussion is irrelevant. But running three QSOs per minute at 
33wpm requires skill & accuracy and where the QSO 'shape' is essential. 
Let's encourage operating-skills, not revert to the old days of 'Hello old 
man, nice signal, 579 peaking S8'.

Back to basics: it ain't broke, it's hugely popular, growing like wild-fire, 
could become the biggest contest in the world after CQWW. Let's not mess 
with it for minor gain! Drop it, mate!
73 de Roger/G3SXW.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andy Cook G4PIQ" <g4piq at btinternet.com>
>
>> RST adds structure and makes us look a little less
>> ridiculous to non-contesters.
>
>
> I'd suggest that it's precisely the meaningless
> exchange of 59(9) in IOTA and other major HF
> contests that makes us look ridiculous to non-
> contesters and to many VHF+ contesters?
>
> Does anyone disagree?
>
> As for structure, we all know that when we call
> another station and hear our callsign, we expect
> to have to log whatever comes after the callsign.
> None of us needs extra time to get ready - we are
> contesters, and the Sprints have already shown
> that "what you don't expect, you don't miss".
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, the only way
> to shorten the IOTA exchange is to remove one or
> more of the exchange elements.
>
> The IOTA Reference has to stay because it affects
> points and multipliers.  The leaves 5NN or Serial
> to be dropped - and why drop an element that has
> to be copied on-air, and can't be pre-filled by
> logging software?
>
> Here's what the structure of an IOTA QSO would
> look like.
>
> Me:    EI5DI TEST
> You:   G2XYZ
> Me:    G2XYZ 091 EU115  (you log 091 EU115)
> You:   026 EU5          (I log 026 EU5)
> Me:    TU EI5DI
>
> A change too far?  Hardly!
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
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