[UK-CONTEST] 1st 1.8Mhz - This weekend

[Rob - G4LMW]

OK Paul

But the purpose of a contest is to record exactly what was exchanged. If the 
other guy sends "599 crazy banana", that is what you should log. In ROPOCO, 
I am expecting a postcode. When I receive "XTX/19ZZA", I know it is not a 
post code, but I log it all the same.

The new RSGB adjudication software is able to compare what competing 
stations recorded as the sent exchange from non-competing stations. No log 
submission is needed. This "fabricated" log is surprisingly complete and 
accurate at times. If it is a "unique", it may not count. However, it is 
likely (in this case) not to be unique, so the software is going to compare 
the various logged exchanges with this station.

If all stations who worked them log it correctly, then everyone should have 
"crazy banana" in their exchange field. Those who do not, are likely to lose 
the points.

Perhaps a more limiting factor is that some logging programs are expecting a 
certain exchange and cannot cope with the variation. In these cases, a note 
needs to be made with a good old pencil and paper and a cabrillo edit done 
after the event.

I guess what I am saying is what I stated at the start. You should always 
log exactly what you receive, not what you want to record.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one........

73, Rob
G4LMW
http://www.G4LMW.co.uk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 1st 1.8Mhz - This weekend


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob - G4LMW" <g4lmw at btconnect.com>
>
>> Maybe I am missing something, but the General Rules already cover
>> this don't they?:
>
>> ===================================
>> 4.(a)
>> Points are not lost if a non-competing station does not send
>> appropriate information, but a report must be logged and any
>> other exchange sent by that station must be recorded
>> ===================================
>
>
> By definition, a non-competing system is unlikely to submit an
> entry.  Therefore, that station's exchange cannot be directly
> cross-checked.  In these circumstances, why insist that an
> exchange of indeterminate length be recorded?
>
>> In your case, you would then be classed as a "non-competing"
>> station if you did not send the exchange as specified for the
>> event. Which is of course your choice.
>
> When I, or any other overseas station, call UK stations in
> the 1.8 MHz contest, they don't necessarily know whether
> I'm "competing".  What they do know is that I'm good for
> points.  If I then send both a serial and a county code
> (or whatever), would any UK station log anything other than
> the serial?  There is little chance, unless they're logging
> with pencil and paper.
>
>> How would you want the rules to be updated?
>
> Here's a suggestion - specifically for the 1.8 MHz contest.
> Sometimes, general rules may be too general :-)
>
>  Points will not be deducted for QSOs logged with non-UK
>  stations who do not send the expected exchange, or send
>  additional exchange elements.  Any serial received should
>  be recorded, and, in these circumstances, no further
>  exchange elements should be recorded.  When exchange
>  element(s) other than a serial are received, the first
>  such element must be recorded in the serial field - to
>  the extent that it fits.  When no exchange element is
>  received, or when the station declines to provide a serial,
>  zero should be recorded.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
> _______________________________________________
> UK-Contest mailing list
> UK-Contest at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/uk-contest