[UK-CONTEST] Online Entries for AFS : those Teams!

[Nigel G3TXF]

Hello Bob,

This is indeed an excellent suggestion! 

For those clubs lucky enough to be able to submit sufficient
entries for more than just one four-member AFS Team, the
composition of Team-A, Team-B etc should indeed be
determined by the ranking of the adjudicated score, and not
by an arbitrary pre-submission selection.

With so much superb log-uploading automation already
implemented for RSGB HF Contests, this seems to be a logical
next step for AFS.

73 - Nigel G3TXF




-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
g3ory at lineone.net
Sent: 11 January 2010 15:29
To: dave at g4buo.com
Cc: UK-Contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Online Entries for AFS CW

Dave,

Could I make a suggestion about how to handle the 80m AFS
entries in future.

The problem as I see it is that an entry system honed to the
needs of individual entries is being used for a team entry
in which every member needs to know which team he is in. OK,
he will know he is in the Cray Valley team but how does
he/she find out if he/she is in the Cray Valley A or Cray
Valley B?

This is the weak point.  When 80m AFS first started, team
selection was made by the adjudicator on the basis of the
adjudicated scores. It was only later that the team
selection requirement was placed upon the Clubs that
entered.
A significant improvement would result from reverting to
this original system. Now that we are firmly in the realm of
computer assisted adjudication, there should be no real
difficulty in deciding which team (A, B etc) an entrant is
part of, based on adjudicated scores.  The extra work load
on the adjudicator becomes minimal and it stops a load of
to-ing and fro-ing within Clubs trying to decide the
composition of each team and then advising everyone of which
team to state on their entry. By which time of course, at
least one entrant will have put his log in with the wrong
team designation.....!!!!

There would still be a need to send a blanket message
regarding eligibility and meeting place but this could now
be independent of team selection and a whole lot easier as a
result.

I hope you find this helpful.

73 Bob

>----Original Message----
>From: dave at g4buo.com
>Date: 11/01/2010 12:58
>To: <UK-Contest at contesting.com>
>Subj: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Online Entries for AFS CW
>
>There is a lot of change on the rsgbcc web site at the
moment, and
the
>rules should have been kept in step so once again,
apologies.
>
>What we need to know is which club each station represents,
so every
log
>file must be attached to a club via the robot process. We
also need
the
>soapbox of at least one entry for each club to state who is
in team
A,
>team B etc, the normal meeting place of the affiliated
society, and a 
>declaration that all entrants are members of the club.
>
>73, Dave G4BUO
>
>> On 11 Jan 2010 at 9:28, dave at g4buo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies, I should have updated the 2010 rules. Please
submit
your AFS
>>> entries to the HF Contest entry robot
>>>
>>> http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/hfenter.pl
>>>
>>> I will make sure to update the rules on Monday evening.
>>
>> There seems to be two different sets of rules for AFS.
The one
linked
>> from the on line entry form
>>
(javascript:popUp(\'hfcontest_rules.pl?contest=afscw&year=20
10\')
>> and the one from the home page
>> (http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/rules/2010/rafs.shtml). The
latter says
we
>> should send an appropriate summary sheet for club
entries, but
there is
>> no mention of this requirement on the robot rules. Is
this still a 
>> requirement if all logs are submitted via the robot?
>>
>>
>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
>
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