[UK-CONTEST] Individual Short Contest Callsigns

[Ian Maude]

I totally agree Clive.  Sands Contest Group (G1T) have been using our call
for 4 years.  In that time we have used it in most of the major contests
each year (SSB mainly, sorry Olaf but some of us are not yet ready for the
pace of a CW contest ;)).  Having said that, we try to improve our own score
each year and we do OK but the current rules will probably mean we lose our
callsign.  We are in the process of collating the required information but
as Clive mentions, it sounds like a rule to discourage those of us without
the mega stations.  Surely proof of use is enough, why would OFCOM need to
know how well we do in the contests?

73 Ian

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Ian J Maude, G0VGS
SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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On 3 March 2010 12:40, Clive Whelan <clive.whelan at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Gentlefolk
>
>
> Are we not missing a fundamental point here by concentrating too much on
> detail and not looking at the bigger picture; I personally believe so.
>
> Ofcom or HFCC as it's surrogate are not simply asking us to validate our
> regular use of an SCC, which is frankly entirely reasonable but to
> demonstrate performance at a level of one third of e.g. HC8N (or is it
> G9BF or even my butty GW9BF?; not at all clear). Granted, we are classic
> under-achievers in the sporting arena, but in some ways I have a
> sneaking regard for our "amateur" efforts. Those of a certain age might
> remember Alf Tupper from a comic of the era who trained on fish and
> chips and ran four minute miles ( when that was still fast!); yes I
> really liked Alf! The analogue in our field is the group who operate
> from the scout hut and only have 100 watts and a G5RV. They really
> should be doing better, but should we actively discourage them by
> denying them the tools that others enjoy?
>
> So HFCC/Ofcom,  if you are looking to create some kind of exclusive or
> elite group, thanks but no thanks.
>
>
> 73
>
> Clive
> GW3NJW
>
>
>
> On 03/03/2010 11:38, cris at gm4fam.plus.com wrote:
> > I would also like to thank Olof for his analysis - no offence taken for
> > the exclusion of us lot outside G land (!)
> >
> > I know that in this sort of situation rules have to be set and criteria
> > made but I do side with Ian G3WVG on his viewpoint - a QSY for CQWW CW
> > from the leafy glades of Surrey to the rather harsher environment of the
> > Shetlands on multiple occasions hardly smacks of a lack of activity
> (still
> > less enthusiasm) in contesting.
> > Also recall a very successful trip to Greenland for WWCW 2008 by members
> > of the same group to give out a relatively rare double mult - difficult
> to
> > air M5A (in any of its guises) at the same time!
> >
> > 73 Cris
> > GM4FAM
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi Olof.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> First of all, thanks for your considered response.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your first point is well made, although I'm sure some (Non-England) UK
> >> stations may take issue with your analysis!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As I recall the original intention of SCCs was to enable keen UK contest
> >> groups to use a distinctive callsign that would put them on a par with
> >> their
> >> international competitors. Sometimes these groups operate as a multi-op
> >> but
> >> often they use the facilities of a group member or help others to put in
> a
> >> single-op entry. I see nothing wrong with this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't really see the need to extend the SCC system to a wider range of
> >> contests. I think they serve their purpose well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Our contest group has been affiliated to the RSGB for over 20 years and
> we
> >> are all highly active and passionate supporters of contesting. I don't
> >> regard it as "messing OFCOM around" to correct the anomalies in their
> >> abruptly imposed RSGB/OFCOM rules.  As the rules stand at present, our
> >> group
> >> will lose its long standing SCC simply because in the past we chose to
> use
> >> it around the UK to make tens of thousands of QSOs in CQWW CW.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73 Ian G3WVG ..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Co-Founder "Three As Contest Group G0AAA"
> >>
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