[UK-CONTEST] IARU contest URE Report

cris at gm4fam.plus.com cris at gm4fam.plus.com
Sat May 1 09:12:05 PDT 2010


Whatever they did David I believe the whole situation is wrong.

Awarding points for QSOs with stations in your own country is going to put
countries with larger amateur populations at a distinct advantage (and
that includes the RSGB!); so on this basis regular participants such as
LA/NRRL, the UA2 national society etc etc are just not going to get a high
placing.

I don't know what the complete answer is but would repeat the call for
zero points for contacts with stations in your own country (per CQWW);
that would at least level things a bit.

73 Cris
GM4FAM


> Did they actually cheat or did they exploit the rules to the maximum? If
> the later then that is OK. If you do not like then campaign to get the
> rules changed or alternatively do the same to nullify their advantage.
>
> You could argue that SO2R is cheating if you can only do SO1R, yet for
> most multi-band contests SO2R is within the rules. But then the SO2R
> contester put the effort in to achieve that capability just as has the
> DL did to get all those calls in the log.
>
> David G3YYD
>
> On 01/05/2010 09:20, Gordon Brown wrote:
>>
>> People cheat, they always have and always will.  If these sad people get
>> pleasure by winning after cheating then it says a lot about them.  We
>> can't set up rules to defeat the cheats because they will always find
>> other ways.  Should we set up a police force that drops in on
>> contestants in the middle of a contest to ensure they haven't switched
>> their linear on?  Do we stop contestants in NFD, 80M-CC etc. claiming
>> points for contacts with their own members?
>> It's a hobby, win or lose you're supposed to enjoy it.  I do, always.
>>
>> 73 Gordon G3MZV
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] IARU contest URE Report
>>
>> I agree with Peter G3LET - change to zero points for home HQ station
>> just
>> like the CQWW (this includes GB7HQ in Scotland working a station in
>> England!!).
>>
>> 73 Cris
>> GM4FAM
>>
>>
>>> Actually it's quite easy to believe.  The solution is not to allow QSOs
>>> with your own country to count for points.  There's just too much
>>> temptation to cheat at present.  Everyone does it to some extent but
>>> apparently DA0HQ has better organisation and a lower embarrassment
>>> threshold.
>>>
>>> 73, Peter G3LET
>>>
>>> CHRIS COLCLOUGH wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the cross posting.
>>>>
>>>> Have any of you been alerted to this?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.radio-sport.net/iaru_scoring09b.htm
>>>>
>>>> If this is true then there needs to be further investigations. There
>>>> are
>>>> 2 links to pdf documents part way down that explain it all. I know we
>>>> in
>>>> the UK get behind the RSGB entry in the contest and work them on all
>>>> bands and modes if possible, but this is taking the buiscuit.
>>>>
>>>> I have just read it and can't believe what I have read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Colclough
>>>> G1VDP
>>>>
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