[UK-CONTEST] IARU contest URE Report

[Nigel G3TXF]

Cris,

The recent eruption by URE over the regular IARU Contest
shenanagins at DA0HQ has been bubbling below the service for
many years. While the "zero points own country" solution
would be excellent and would put pay to much of the problem
immediately, it's the ARRL that has argued that this would
make this (summertime = not much DX about) contest
uninteresting for USA stations who could not then work each
other.

Hopefully the current outburst by URE will achieve something
positive, whereas more diplomatic approaches by GB7HQ and
others over the past years have failed to get the IARU
scoring system changed.

73 - Nigel G3TXF



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Sent: 01 May 2010 17:12
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Subject: [UK-CONTEST] IARU contest URE Report

Whatever they did David I believe the whole situation is
wrong.

Awarding points for QSOs with stations in your own country
is going to put countries with larger amateur populations at
a distinct advantage (and that includes the RSGB!); so on
this basis regular participants such as LA/NRRL, the UA2
national society etc etc are just not going to get a high
placing.

I don't know what the complete answer is but would repeat
the call for zero points for contacts with stations in your
own country (per CQWW); that would at least level things a
bit.

73 Cris
GM4FAM


> Did they actually cheat or did they exploit the rules to
the maximum? 
> If the later then that is OK. If you do not like then
campaign to get 
> the rules changed or alternatively do the same to nullify
their advantage.
>
> You could argue that SO2R is cheating if you can only do
SO1R, yet for 
> most multi-band contests SO2R is within the rules. But
then the SO2R 
> contester put the effort in to achieve that capability
just as has the 
> DL did to get all those calls in the log.
>
> David G3YYD
>
> On 01/05/2010 09:20, Gordon Brown wrote:
>>
>> People cheat, they always have and always will.  If these
sad people 
>> get pleasure by winning after cheating then it says a lot
about them.  
>> We can't set up rules to defeat the cheats because they
will always 
>> find other ways.  Should we set up a police force that
drops in on 
>> contestants in the middle of a contest to ensure they
haven't 
>> switched their linear on?  Do we stop contestants in NFD,
80M-CC etc. 
>> claiming points for contacts with their own members?
>> It's a hobby, win or lose you're supposed to enjoy it.  I
do, always.
>>
>> 73 Gordon G3MZV
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] IARU contest URE Report
>>
>> I agree with Peter G3LET - change to zero points for home
HQ station 
>> just like the CQWW (this includes GB7HQ in Scotland
working a station 
>> in England!!).
>>
>> 73 Cris
>> GM4FAM
>>
>>
>>> Actually it's quite easy to believe.  The solution is
not to allow 
>>> QSOs with your own country to count for points.  There's
just too 
>>> much temptation to cheat at present.  Everyone does it
to some 
>>> extent but apparently DA0HQ has better organisation and
a lower 
>>> embarrassment threshold.
>>>
>>> 73, Peter G3LET
>>>
>>> CHRIS COLCLOUGH wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the cross posting.
>>>>
>>>> Have any of you been alerted to this?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.radio-sport.net/iaru_scoring09b.htm
>>>>
>>>> If this is true then there needs to be further
investigations. 
>>>> There are
>>>> 2 links to pdf documents part way down that explain it
all. I know 
>>>> we in the UK get behind the RSGB entry in the contest
and work them 
>>>> on all bands and modes if possible, but this is taking
the 
>>>> buiscuit.
>>>>
>>>> I have just read it and can't believe what I have read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Colclough
>>>> G1VDP
>>>>
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