[UK-CONTEST] Real-time sharing of logs between stations in AFS teams

Steve Knowles g3ufy at blueyonder.co.uk
Sat Nov 6 09:34:59 PDT 2010


An interesting thought - a kind of multi-multi set-up like GR2HQ, but using 
different callsigns.  An instant reply (required to be so 'cos I'm just 
about to leave for the RSGBCC Committee Meeting) for HF would indicate NOT 
allowed because (taking the term 'entry' to mean the Club Effort rather than 
an individual station)

General Rule 4(f) states:
The active use (posting messages, arranging skeds, self spotting etc) of the 
DX Cluster and other spotting networks (including internet facilities for 
example ON4KST) to assist an entry is not permitted.

A private network between stations could certainly be considered as a 
spotting network if used in this way.

There are a number of interesting matters raised by this suggestion 
concerning the very principles of spotting and assistance.  Although of 
little relevance for 80m operators they could be significant at VHF and 
accordingly I will raise this mail at the Committee Meeting tomorrow.

73

Steve
G3UFY
Secretary RSGBCC



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Chipperfield" <robert at syxis.co.uk>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:13 PM
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Real-time sharing of logs between stations in AFS 
teams


> Hi all,
>
> A wonder: considering, for the most part, the VHF/UHF AFS contests, is
> it acceptable for different members of a team to have a (close to)
> real-time view of other team members' logs? (Maybe with exchange data
> such as serials / locators redacted?)
>
> My use case goes roughly as follows: if station A works a station in
> S&P, it's useful for stations B/C/D to know about that, even if it's not
> following a cluster spot. Clearly self-spotting on the cluster is
> prohibited, but if it's a non-public link (assume: Internet based)
> between stations within one team, knowing the frequency your team
> members are currently operating on confers no advantage (I'm assuming
> that when you're within a few km of each other as required by AFS, all
> team members will work each other quite happily anyway - just look for
> the 59+60 signal!).
>
> Rule 4.i prohibits the "active use of spotting networks", but does
> encourage the spotting of DX stations not on your frequency. So since
> it's allowable to spot DX stations worked whilst S&P on the public
> cluster, is it also allowable to pass this information directly to your
> other team members?
>
> Stations worked whilst calling CQ would be less useful to the other
> stations, but not entirely useless: knowing there's a load of stations
> you haven't worked in IO83 yet, but a fellow member has for example,
> could encourage team members to spend a little longer beaming in that
> direction.
>
> All very early thoughts at this stage, but I wonder what the opinion is?
>
> Many thanks,
> Rob, M0VFC
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