[UK-CONTEST] Real-time sharing of logs between stations in AFS teams

Robert Chipperfield robert at syxis.co.uk
Wed Nov 10 08:20:29 PST 2010


On 10/11/2010 15:52, Paul_group wrote:
> Why not just spot the station on the public cluster?
>
> You said previously that you didn't think it would be helpful to the
> wider audience. I'm in IO73 and if I see someone in JO02 spotted by
> someone also in JO02 its still useful to me. If I beam at J002 to work
> the other station you never know you might also hear me so its to your
> advantage as well.
If you think it's reasonable to do this, then that's fine: I'm conscious 
of not wanting to "spam" the cluster, but if the general consensus is 
that the more spots the better, then maybe that's the way forward.
> So far all I can see in your suggestion is that you want to keep the
> info to within your team for your own benefit, whilst I can understand
> that reason, its not better for the contest in general.
It'd be wrong of me to claim that I wasn't trying to improve my team's 
score by doing this. Contests are, of course, competetive events! 
Otherwise we wouldn't all be trying to get our aerials higher than each 
other, find the best sites, and make the best use of the tools and 
equipment available.

However, obviously the "best tools available" comes with limits, both 
technical and ethical: it's not just a technical limitation which means 
we don't all run 10kW!

Hence why I'm posting the question here: I'm trying to gauge whether 
what I'm suggesting falls into the category of "allowed things to do" 
(like putting up a bigger / better aerial) or "things you're not allowed 
to do" (like self-spotting or exceeding the allowed power limits).
> Would you think it reasonable and ethical to have a team wide Skype
> conference open whilst the contest was on for swapping information?
I guess that's kind of the issue: is it a team entry - that is, a group 
of individuals working together to together maximise their collective 
outcome, or simply the sum of some number of individual entries who 
happen to be called a team? If the former, then it seems reasonable that 
team members assist each other wherever possible and allowed; otherwise, 
probably not.

73,
Rob, M0VFC


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