[UK-CONTEST] Club Calls

[Rob - G4LMW]

Andy

Very kind of you.

However, the 10 "wrong" clubs are all derived from the logs of the ENTRY 
stations of previous year's logs (in other words, what was SENT). We were 
only interested in what was SENT, and not necessarily the "correct" name of 
the club.

That is the only source of the listing (hence the foreign clubs).

If entrants do not know the name of their own club.........well.....

73, Rob
G4LMW
http://www.G4LMW.co.uk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Cowley" <Andy.Cowley at uwe.ac.uk>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Club Calls


> Entrants should be aware that the spreadsheet at
> http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/clubcalls.xls
> contains at least 10 errors, most, but not all, in
> the full names.
>
> vy 73
>
> Andy, M1EBV
>
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:17:47, Rob - G4LMW"<g4lmw at btconnect.com> wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:17:47 -0000
>> From: "Rob - G4LMW"<g4lmw at btconnect.com>
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Club Calls
>> To:<peter at tilgate.co.uk>, "UK Contest reflector"
>>          <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID:<516BC156EAB44E42B181D69F0D4827EF at rob>
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>>
>> Peter
>>
>> If the name of anyone's club is not listed in the robot drop-down, the
>> situation is no different to any other RSGB contest. You select "None of
>> these" and the robot will take it from your Cabrillo header. If it is not
>> there, you can enter it in the last stage of the robot submission.
>>
>> The "preferred abbreviation" file is simply an alternative to submitting 
>> the
>> full length name of the club - since many loggers can only cope with 20
>> characters. The list was original derived from all the logged clubs from
>> previous contests. The list bears no relation to that on the drop-down 
>> list
>> on the log submission page. I see no reason why it should?
>>
>> The drop-down contains a "sensible" full length name of each club. The 
>> Excel
>> file contains two columns - a fully expanded name ("and" instead of "&" 
>> for
>> example - the name that should be exchanged during the contest) and the
>> second is as descriptive a short name as possible of no more than 20
>> characters. Making the robot drop-down match either of these columns 
>> would
>> not make sense (the list is used for ALL contests, not just Club Calls). 
>> If
>> club names are not on the excel list then please edit your cabrillo 
>> BEFORE
>> submission to show the FULL club name.
>>
>> A big deal seems to be being made of the excel list. It is there to help,
>> not hinder. Any log submitted with the full club name will be just as
>> welcome (in fact, preferred), but trying to score logs with an infinite
>> number of ways of abbreviating the same thing is extremely time 
>> consuming.
>>
>> Anytown and District Amateur Radio Society (over 40 chars)  =
>> AADARS
>> Anytown ADARS
>> Anytown A.D.A.R.S.
>> Anytown and DARS
>> Anytown&  D ARS
>> Anytown&  Dist ARS
>> Anytown&  Dist. ARS
>> Anytown&  D AR Soc.
>> A&  D ARS
>> A and D ARS
>> A&  D AR Soc
>> etc
>> etc
>> (all in any attempt to get them to 20 chars or less)
>>
>> The adjudication software compares the sent exchange and received 
>> exchange
>> electronically. Computers like things to be EXACTLY the same. As it is, 
>> the
>> software goes through a complex sequence of removing double spaces, full
>> stops, expanding "&" to "and", "RS" to "Radio Society" etc. in an attempt 
>> to
>> end up with the full club names again.
>>
>> So, submit your log with "Anytown and District Amateur Radio Society" 
>> (all
>> cabrillos can be amended) and you will be fine. BUT if you need to
>> abbreviate it, please use the "preferred abbreviation"............unless 
>> you
>> want to get the results some time after Easter 2011?
>>
>> Hopefully, this answers all the questions regarding the log submissions 
>> and
>> why things are as they are..........now send those (correct) logs in!
>>
>> 73, Rob
>> G4LMW
>> Adjudicator, Club Calls
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