[UK-CONTEST] 18m Spiderpole erection

Sun Aug 14 02:51:02 PDT 2011

Fred

Some excellent advice given on erection of the 18m version which I cannot
add to.

But I do have an unguyed 12m Spiderpole supported by a cemented 4ft fence
post which I use with a single raised radial on 60m.

Recommend you wrap a couple of layers of tape round the bottom of each
telescoping section and then add a suitable sized hose clamp on top; this
will guarantee that you don't wake up one morning to find your 18m has
downsized to the height of my one!

The radiating wire (bare copper) is put up the inside of the pole and
joined to a short length of thickish ali agricultural fencing (to bring to
resonance on 60m); the joint and the bottom 6in of ali wire fit snugly
inside the top of the pole with the remaining ali wire poking out of the
top; a wee bit of sealant was added to prevent moisture ingress.  Its done
a winter shift no problem with driving snow and very high winds.

Appreciate that its a whole different ball game with an extra 6m but hope
my experiences add something to the pot.

Good luck!

73 Cris
GM4FAM

> Guys
>
> Thanks for all the info. I have one of these to try here in my A6 garden
> later in the year, which will be near single handed!
>
> We used one last WW SSB in S79.  The location was not flat and a
> collection
> of rocks.  As we were a team of 4 we erected the big Spiderpole
> vertically,
> pushing up and clamping off each section and taping on the wire as we
> went.
> Until the last few sections it was quite "easy" with 2 stout people
> pushing,
> holding and cursing, plus 2 watching, encouraging and "helping".  Teamwork
> always wins!
>
> The addition of a high power 80m Unadilla trap on the second smallest
> section plus a loading wire makes a very effective 2 band antenna.
>
> 73 Fred
> A65BD
> S79K
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mm0bqi" <mm0bqi at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] GM1J EU92 IOTA Report
>
>
>>
>> Hi Chris
>> Very much the same way as Ian.
>> I locate the base by driving in a couple of three foot rods and use rope
>> to
>> create the flexible swivel joint. Very important it is well secured
>> because
>> as you walk the pole up all the base wants to do is to lift out of the
>> ground.  As you can imagine if it does spring out of the ground it has a
>> lot
>> of force behind it so as always there should be no one hanging about the
>> base of the pole. Once the base is secured lay out the guys at 90
>> degrees
>> (two sets) as you woud for any mast then walk up.  Do NOT be tempted to
>> 'support' it or pull it up using the un attached guys.  Walking it up
>> keeps
>> all the stresses along a straight line, the pole will bend dramatically
>> on
>> the way up but no harm will be done.
>> The other way to do it is to use a falling derrick arrangement (I thing
>> Bristol may use this?)
>> For me the golden rules are secure base, walk it up straight and to
>> ensure
>> there are clamps at all the joints.  I suspect one of my sections slid
>> inside another during the storm a couple of years ago and then with
>> slack
>> guys the pole just self destructed!
>> There are a couple of ways to set it up.  Hellically wind the wire round
>> the
>> pole, slack twists will use up all the wire and does away with the need
>> for
>> six feet or so coming away from the top of the pole.  Not sure what the
>> performance difference would be but suspect it may be very little.  I am
>> also unsure as to whether the use of the wire extension with the
>> additional
>> guy wire securinging it to the ground could add unwelcome stresses to
>> the
>> pole in adverse weather.  I have tried all the above and they have
>> worked
>> well in portable situations.
>> There was some chat on the various user groups about using the pole to
>> support horizontal wires.  Generally this seems to be frowned upon as
>> they
>> are designed not to have much horizontal strees once they are vertical
>> (If
>> that makes any sense!!)
>> Although I am one of the few folk who have managed to destroy an 18m
>> SpiderBeam pole I think they are a great solution for LF antennas.  As
>> such
>> a new one is on the shopping list for next years IOTA contest.
>> Good luck with the trip.
>> 73
>> Jim,  MM0BQI
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 August 2011 19:59, Ian Pritchard <g3wvg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris ..
>>>
>>> If you're going to use a spiderbeam you may be intersted in this ...
>>>
>>> Some of the pictures in this link show the arrangement I used with my
>>> spiderbeam
>>> >>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.g3txf.com/dxtrip/MW5B/MW5B-10.html
>>> >>>>
>>>
>>> They are quite easy to erect single handed ...providing the ground is
>>> horizontal!  I made sure the geometry was correct for four way guying
>>> and
>>> then simply walked the mast vertical.
>>> The key to sucess is to allow the base to pivot 90 degrees without it
>>>  twisting. I made a simple short wooden "cage" to fit over the bottom
>>> of
>>> the
>>> spiderbeanm pole, this then swivels on a steel rod which passes through
>>> the
>>> top of a short piece of scaffold pole sriven into the ground.
>>>
>>> 73 Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 13/8/11, Chris Tran GM3WOJ <zl1ct1 at gm7v.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Chris Tran GM3WOJ <zl1ct1 at gm7v.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] GM1J EU92 IOTA Report
>>> > To: uk-contest at contesting.com
>>> > Date: Saturday, 13 August, 2011, 18:38
>>>  > Hello Jim et al
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the interesting IOTA report and the 5 QSOs with
>>> > GM7V - being so
>>> > close to you makes working you difficult on some bands.
>>> >
>>> > A bit off-topic, but what is the recommended method - or
>>> > your experiences -
>>> > for erecting an 18m Spiderbeam pole ?  We've got one
>>> > for our upcoming
>>> > DXpedition but want to make sure there is no 'snap' sound
>>> > when we install
>>> > it.  I'm guessing the method may differ depending on
>>> > what wires etc the 18m
>>> > pole is supporting.
>>> >
>>> > This may be of interest to others on the reflector...
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> > Chris
>>> > GM3WOJ
>>> >
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