[UK-CONTEST] Not sending what you key in

[Bob Henderson]

Hi Barry

I agree it is easy to understand.  Though I doubt many serious contesters
will these days accept the increased risk associated with divorcing what is
sent from what is logged.  An own goal for sure.

My point is that communication would be improved were the sender to share
responsibility for accurate receipt.  This mostly isn't the case.  Of
course, what I suggest isn't going to happen any time soon because it would
disturb established exchange dynamics. To illustrate:

Me: Test P3F
You: GM3YEH
Me: GM3YEH 5nn
You: 5nn
Me: TU
Then: W2YZ etc

The above conveys a typical contest exchange.  Note that the station I work
never actually sends my call.  How might I know if he has copied me as P3L?
I can't.  This underlines the inequity in penalising me as a consequence of
him logging P3L.  I must assume my QSO partner can accurately read my CW.
Very sloppy!

Greater efficacy would arise were both parties penalised for imperfect two
way communication.  I don't see any need for penalties of multiple QSO
points merely zero points for the contact.

As I said this ain't going to happen soon, if not for any other reason than
it would disturb the status quo significantly, at least so far as contest
records are concerned.  This because the current "efficient" exchange format
would suddenly become a hazard to be averted and rate reduction would
result.  Viz:

Me: Test P3F
You: P3F (de) GM3YEH
Me: GM3YEH 5nn
You: 5nn
Me: TU

Suddenly you need to send my call because I now need confidence you know who
I am.

Perish the thought.  ;-)

Bob, 5B4AGN


On 14 August 2011 19:36, GM3YEH <gm3yeh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> In routine CW QSOs D2SG Craig (aka MM0SSG) doesn't use ESM.  What he types
> goes into the log but what he sends comes from his paddles.  The scenario
> Tom describes is easy to understand when this is taken into account.
> 73 Barry GM3YEH.
>
>
> > On 13 Aug 2011 at 11:15, Tom GM4FDM wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmmmmm.    I am qsl manager for Craig  D2SG.    In his last log there
> > > were 12 instances of    where he had keyed in an O  instead of a 0
> > > (zero)    like MOAXT instead of M0AXT  there were two instances of
> where
> > > Craig had keyed in an I instead of a 1.  So these QSOs did not match in
> > > LOTW.
> > >
> >
> > From: Bob Henderson <bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
> > To: UK Contest Reflector <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:42:22 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Who loses points for bad QSO?
> > Tom
> >
> > You mean you don't send what you key in?
> >
> > Bob, 5B4AGN
> >
> >
> >
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