[UK-CONTEST] Unnecessary 80m CC rule tweaking?

Roger Western g3sxw at btinternet.com
Thu Dec 29 12:17:23 PST 2011


Ian, Nigel, Andy (and others) are right. We learned many decades ago that 
you canNOT create level playing fields in contesting. But I do note that 
anyone proposing a rule change always does so solely for their OWN benefit - 
not for the greater good.

These so-called 'contest clubs' have been nothing but good for contesting. 
If your local 'natter night' club members cannot win then create a 'contest 
club'. Anyway, most 'local clubs' are dying on their feet.

Stop whingeing, look for the positives, join in, have fun, assess your own 
performance in any way that you choose. One of my local clubs was thrilled 
to come in 10th instead of 13th. Top Ten - yippee!
73 de Roger/G3SXW.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Andy Cook, G4PIQ
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:35 AM
To: 'uk-contest'
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Unnecessary 80m CC rule tweaking?

To me this debate is rather spurious, simply because the club competition
element of the CCs isn't a fair contest - it's not bounded by a maximum team
size.

At the design of these contests the decision was taken not to set a limit to
the number of entrants in order to that maximize participation - and that
decision has worked well.

I really can't see how adding a distance limit to put some groups into
General category and some in a Local category should make anyone less likely
to enter. No-one is being excluded from entry - it's just which table you
end up in for 2012. If we really wanted to make the categories 'fairer',
then that distance limit should be supplemented with a maximum number of
team members constraint.

Is 35km a bit small - probably yes IMO - but a line has to be drawn
somewhere.

73,

Andy, G4PIQ

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ian Pritchard
Sent: 29 December 2011 11:07
To: Nigel G3TXF; uk-contest
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Unnecessary 80m CC rule tweaking?

Morning all
The contest group I operate for will never be at the top, we simply
don't  have sufficient numbers. Nevertheless we enjoy these increasingly
popular contests and take part when we can.  Activity has been increasing
year on year and operating standards steadily improving, so if the aim of
the events was to increase awareness and encourage contesting then they have
been a great success.
Presumably the recent rule changes have been prompted by whinges from a
minority of "local" clubs who are uncomfortable when they see their results
further down the table than they would like.  Other than to produce a second
results table so that "local" clubs can feel better about their performance
I can't see what positive results these changes will achieve.
73 Ian G3WVG (G0AAA Three As Contest Group)


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