[UK-CONTEST] Fwd: 3rd Jan 80m CC [CW]
David G3YYD
g3yyd at btinternet.com
Thu Jan 6 09:44:38 PST 2011
Andy
Thank you for that analysis - most interesting. You may also think about
received noise. If you have a much higher man made noise level than say
G4FNL then that would give you a considerable technical disadvantage. I
know about background noise. G3SJJ has 400KV supergrid at about 1500m
and complains mine are at 300m. When it rains, snows or is just very
damp 160m and 80m contesting is a no no and even when dry on top band, I
estimate power noise is about 12dB above a static free band.
73 David G3YYD
On 06/01/2011 16:02, Andy Summers wrote:
> Clicked wrong button...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Andy Summers<g4kno.mail at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 3rd Jan 80m CC [CW]
> To: g3wvg at btinternet.com
>
>
> How cool is that! I never bothered to look at RBN before.
>
> Out of interest, I sorted the claimed entries by QSO count and picked a few
> to compare with myself at various nodes. What's strking is there isn't a
> massive difference between my signal and some of the leaders. But more
> revealing is that G3ZGC's QRP is indeed consistently weaker than my signal
> and yet he is in 38th place to my 127th! In fact he beats a significant
> number of stations running 100W - well done! OK, I'm no CW op, but this does
> suggest the skill factor is a bigger factor than I had assumed.
>
> Of course, there isn't really any data from nodes in G-land, so it's
> impossible to see whether some enjoyed better inter-G propagation than
> others - which makes up the meat of the available Q's. I was interested to
> see that I was heard by K3LR near the start of the contest at the same SNR
> as G4FNL, who is currently in 1st place.
>
> This is all quite encouraging to me because I had assumed it was a
> pipe-dream to think I could get anywhere near the top of the table with my
> station (currently 100W to inverted-vee windom, 30ft apex 10ft ends). A long
> way to go with the skill then... I recall reading something G6XN wrote where
> he reckoned those with beams did better partly because they expected to get
> through to DX, whereas those that didn't gave up too easily.
>
> 73,
> Andy G4KNO.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Ian Pritchard<g3wvg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Interesting conditions throughout the 80m CC. I had expected the band to
>> be pretty poor for inter UK QSOs throughout the contest but for me (in
>> Surrey ) it improved dramatically in the last 45 mins or so. Today I did a
>> search on the "reverse beacon network comparison tool" comparing signal
>> strengths of various high scoring stations (posted on logs received) as
>> received throughout the 90 minutes at various reception points around
>> Europe. Fascinating stuff. It would be very interesting to see what
>> antennas everyone was using. Most of the stations had comparable patterns
>> of signal strengths but there were some anomalous results. with a very
>> small number of stations exhibiting as much as a 10db advantage over others.
>>
>> Check it out at http://www.reversebeacon.net/analysis/
>>
>> 73 Ian G3WVG
>>
>>
>>
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