[UK-CONTEST] G0TZZ queries

[Steve Knowles]

Hi Rob, Chris, et al

Some RSGB CC stuff, and also some personal stuff (where indicated) ... 
please be sure to separate them if replying!.

Points loss - RSGB CC has always endeavoured to supply feedback on busted 
QSOs, even in the days when such info had to be extracted by hand, but 
standards and methods have traditionally differed between the HF and VHF 
sections.  At its most recent meetings the Committee has been working on 
this problem and has devised a standardised content and format for so-called 
UBN files.  This information can now be generated on request ... to get your 
UBN file, mail the contest adjudicator or the RSGB CC Chairman or Secretary. 
At present, each file has to be prepared individually, so please don't abuse 
the facility, HI!  The Committee is working on a system whereby UBN 
information will be available to download directly - it is hoped this system 
will be in place soon.

Stations "Warming the frequency" - Contest rules already prohibit the 
exchange of contest information outside the designated period.  The 
Committee's recent announcement concering this has been the subject of a lot 
of traffic recently!
(Personal opinion follows - attack ME, not RSGB) -
I think that any attempt to stop entrants transmitting for, say, 15 minutes 
before the contest could be easily sidestepped (by a simple callsign change, 
for example).  I also think that it's way beyond the powers, and certainly 
beyond the moral rights of the Contests Committee to make such a requirement 
in the first place, even if there were an overpowering will within the 
contesting community, which I doubt there is.

Stations "Running" - For the last couple of years we have held the summer 
80m Club Sprint series of contests, where it is IMPOSSIBLE for a station to 
do a single-frequency run.  Surprisingly, they are among the worst-supported 
events in the Calendar!
(Personal opinion follows - attack ME not RSGB!) -
'Running' is a tactic, as is S&P.  If you have a super-station with a great 
antenna then running for most, if not all of the time will probably be your 
tactic of choice.  If you have an FT817 and a G5RV (or 10W and a 5-ele on 
2m) then you're going to be a S&P'er and you're never going to win outright. 
With a middle-of-the-road station (say100W barefoot and a doublet) you'll be 
able to do a bit of each but you're still very unlikely to be the overall 
winner.  In some contests there are sections on the basis of power and/or 
aerials to make life easier for the little guys ... in some there are not - 
fact of life.
We are talking about contesting! It's competitive!  Why should the 
organisers interfere with one station's optimum operating strategy to 
(presumably) try to induce another to employ tactics which are not suited to 
his station?  Remember, without the Runners there's no-one for the S&P'ers 
to work!

Super-Clubs - No 'Super-Club' (ie Nationally-based rather than Locally-based 
club), or section thereof,  has won a club event (80mCC, 160m Club Calls, HF 
or VHF AFS, or UKAC) since 2005.  This is not due to rule-changes ... clubs, 
admittedly large clubs, have mobilised!
The Committee is aware that there is some dissatisfaction with large clubs 
in general, and particularly with specialist contest groups and with clubs 
that draw their membership from a wide area (including, in some cases, even 
from overseas).  This is a matter which is currently under active scrutiny, 
both at HF and VHF.

Enough to be going on with, I think!

73 to all

Steve
G3UFY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Harrison" <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Christopher Soames" <semaos at semaos.plus.com>; 
<uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Ending Times


> Chris,
>
> I think you'll find that as from this year, the CC have addressed this
> problem of where you lost points. I think you may have to ask for it, but 
> it
> will be available.
>
> Would someone from CC correct me if I've read this wrong, or it may be 
> only
> for VHF and up. But I've definitely seen it.
>
> As for your other concerns, I can understand your frustration. Maybe these
> points will be addressed  now they are getting aired on here. Points 1 & 3
> certainly need looking at, and there are ways of mitigating point 2.
>
> Let's see what comes up on here in the way of suggestions.
>
> Bob G8HGN
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Soames" <semaos at semaos.plus.com>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 8:04 PM
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Ending Times
>
>
>>
>> Why worry about it at all. I enter a log at the end of each contest I
>> take part in and always lose points somewhere in the adjudicating, no on
>> ever tells me where I lost these points, so to lose another one for
>> reasons unexplained to me at the time of the adjudicating will make no
>> difference.
>>
>> What I find more unfair is
>> 1.stations warming up for hours .......BECAUSE THE RULES ALLOW THEN TO.
>> 2. Stations with huge signals running for the duration of the
>> contest......BECAUSE THE RULES ALLOW THEM TO.
>> 3. Dedicated contest groups with members all over the country/continent
>> entering a CLUB championship......BECAUSE THE RULES ALLOW THEM TO.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards from
>>
>> Chris Soames
>> G0TZZ
>> email :-
>> semaos at semaos.plus.com
>> www.norfolkamateurradio.org
>>
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