[UK-CONTEST] Alienation

Peter Bowyer peter at bowyer.org
Tue Jan 25 11:25:47 PST 2011


On 25 January 2011 19:07, Callum McC <callum at mccormick.uk.com> wrote:
>>>>G3SVL, G4MJS (and G3RTE)
>
> They must have replied to your off-line clique since nothing arrived here.

The list archives might help you get over your email delivery
problems... my contributions were these (one of which you actually
copied below, so perhaps it's more of an email reading problem than an
email delivery problem)....

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/uk-contest/2011-January/018203.html
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/uk-contest/2011-January/018208.html
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/uk-contest/2011-January/018210.html

>
> As to the rest of your paragraph, I actually don't understand what diverse
> means

The word Cris used was 'divisive'. To help you with your English
comprehension, there's dictionary.reference.com:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/divisive

Definition number 2 is probably most relevant.

> as regards to my debate or really what you're talking about other than
> the fact that you admit that because of email reflectors, you can have a
> stance to encourage alienation.

Let me help. Newcomers always compete against the establishment, twas
ever thus. We oldies were newcomers once, and if prompted, will often
pass on nuggets of advice based on our experience. We didn't have
email reflectors in our day - the process of hearing advice from the
more experienced is easier now.

Peter G4MJS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of cris at gm4fam.plus.com
> Sent: 25 January 2011 08:50
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Alienation
>
> Very well said G3SVL, G4MJS (and G3RTE).
>
> And the "older RAE fraternity" (what a divisive comment!) are no different
> than the newcomers - we were newcomers at some point competing against the
> even older timers; so nothing has changed, except we didn't have the
> luxury and privilege of a reflector to air our views.
>
>
> 73 Cris
> GM4FAM
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 24 January 2011 15:36, Chris  G3SVL <Chris at g3svl.com> wrote:
>>> The current top contesters were not born contesters - they started as
>>> 'mike-shy' and 'key-shy' in just the same way as today's new
>>> licensees.  Indeed until the introduction of the new license format
>>> there was no practical element to the exam (other than the morse
>>> test) at all.  So we were literally thrown in at the deep end the day
>>> our license arrived.
>>>
>>> And we learnt our skills on-air by competing against the then great
>>> contesters until we earned our place higher up the table.  I don't
>>> see what is different today.  And as for '... they can actually
>>> ACHIEVE something within a given event' - how about improving
>>> themselves in each contest - that's what I'm still trying to do 46 years
>>> on!
>>
>> Indeed, Chris. Or (which is the route I took) they find a local
>> contest group and tag along. I've (almost) never contested from home,
>> in fact it's over 15 years since I had a home station - but I've
>> operated in almost all of the CQWW, CQWPX and IOTA events in that
>> time. And a whole list of NFDs, AFSs and countless VHF events from all
>> parts of the UK.
>>
>> Your friendly local contest group will welcome someone willing to show
>> up and pull ropes / hammer in stakes / make tea in exchange for a bit
>> of mic / key practice when it's not too busy - and while you're in
>> their company you're learning all the time.
>>
>> Peter G4MJS (op MD4K, G6PZ, M2A, G8T, 9M6A etc etc)
>
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